• CitricBase@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Let’s see…

    • Nazism
    • McCarthyism
    • Vietnam War
    • Racial Injustice
    • South African Apartheid
    • Occupy Wall Street
    • Gaza Genocide
    • etc.

    I am curious. Has there ever been a wide-scale student protest movement that WASN’T unequivocally vindicated by history?

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      Tiananmen got deleted.

      Never knew until I immigrated to the US. And even then, its merely a brief mention on it and calls it “communism” (its not lol) and then the teachers proclaim its why “communism” is bad, USA constitution rule of law blah blah.

      Look how good the constitution is, its being ripped apart right now.

      Sure, the western world knows it happened, but its only a few shitposters on the internet cares about it. If you go on the street and ask the average westerner, they’d have no clue on what you’re talking about.

      A few posts on reddit shitposting on June 4 is not exactly being “Vindicated”.

      The CCP won, they erased history.

      The USA is now following the same path.

      Autocrats of the world have won.

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        It’s possible English isn’t your first language? No worries.

        The word “vindicated” doesn’t mean “won in the end,” it means “they were right.” As in, justified in their demands, on the right side of history. Even of the protests I listed in my first comment, half of them didn’t actually win in the end (Vietnam, Occupy, Gaza, and arguably more).

        From Wikipedia:

        …(the Seven Demands) for the government:

        1. Affirm Hu Yaobang’s views on democracy and freedom as correct.
        2. Admit that the campaigns against spiritual pollution and bourgeois liberalisation had been wrong.
        3. Publish information on the income of state leaders and their family members.
        4. Allow privately run newspapers and stop press censorship.
        5. Increase funding for education and raise intellectuals’ pay.
        6. End restrictions on demonstrations in Beijing.
        7. Provide objective coverage of students in official media.[84][83]

        I hope that you’d agree that the students were in the right, and that the oppressive CCP was in the wrong?

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          In Mainland China, most people don’t know about Tiananmen, the older people who heard about it didn’t know much unless they were in Beijing, my parents (in Guangdong province at the time) just think its some kids “causing trouble”.

          Most of the liberalizations goals failed, there is no free press. China is a State-Capitalist dictatorship.

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      The Young Turk movement started with medical students.

      There were quite a few pro-segregation protests when schools were desegregated.

      There’s also a lot of cases where students with real grievances and positive intentions are coopted; most of the students protesting in the early 90s in eastern europe didn’t intend to do a color revolution and have their countries stripped for parts.

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        Thank you for bringing those up. However, unless I’m misunderstanding them, the only one of those where the protesters were in the wrong were the pro-segregation protests, correct? But weren’t those protests by-and-large made up of parents? (Perhaps along with some of their children doing what they were told?) Not exactly the “rebellious youth sticking it to the man” we generally mean by the words student protest.

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      9 hours ago

      University students lead the Hungarian Revolution, and history doesn’t remember them fondly. They rebelled against the Soviet Union, which makes them Nazis. It’s a good thing our dear leader Stalin sent the tanks in to kill those students.