• Mindlight@lemmy.world
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    “The countries of Central and Latin America “threw cold water” on the EU’s efforts to unite the continent to support Ukraine and call for colonial reparations in a counter-proposal to the draft declaration of the upcoming EU summit.”

    So on one hand they are not interested in standing up against the Russian attempt to colonize Ukraine but on the other hand they are very interested about colonial reparations?

    So… are they pro colonization or anti colonization?

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      Just like Europe isn’t interested in LATAM’s problems, LATAM isn’t interested in Europe’s problems. Take that as you will.

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        Just like the sounds of my neighbor beating the shit of his wife isn’t any of my concern. I have absolutely no moral obligation to help people in need.

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      I think it’s about showing that they want to be treated as an equal partner. Since eu made it all about their priorities they countered by replacing european concerns with latin american concerns in their proposal.

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          you seem to be presenting a false dichotomy. or you conflate high priorities with concerns.

          if it’s not intentional, hopefully today you’ll learn that latin america prioritizing latin american issues does not mean that other issues are of no concern. for latin america there are more pressing issues.

          edit: your reply doubles down on insisting that because it’s not the highest priority then the only conclusion is it cannot be a concern. you are the only one claiming that latin america position is that the issue does not need attention. It looks like you can’t accept that latin america has it’s own priorities and dosen’t have to prioritize whatever eu says should be at the top. this is more like we agree to make a joint statement and the first draft you send me is all about you you and you with no mention of me. so i send you another draft deleting everything about you and putting me first second and third place. it’s a message.

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    South America has suffered with American coups for many decades now, none of us want to take part on America’s Proxy Wars.

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      You know Ukraine is located in Europe right? And this is more of a case of shoring up Europe’s borders against an agresssor trying to reclaim they former territory?

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        Why is the agressor attacking Ukraine though, has any liberal journal told you the reason? Has any of them told you about the american military bases quickly encroaching into Russian territory?

        Has any of them told you the kind of policies Zelensky implemented? No, they haven’t.

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          Last I checked, having a military base is not grounds for invasion and sovereign countries have a right to determine their alliances.

          And even if it was grounds for an invasion, which it emphatically is not, Ukraine didn’t have any and the major European states were against Ukraine joining NATO until after the invasion.

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              So you approve of the United States actions towards Cuba then? Since you approve of Russias actions towards Ukraine?

              Right, didn’t think so.

              Why it’s almost like you aren’t basing your stance on any kind of ethical value or set of principles at all….

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                Last I checked, having a military base is not grounds for invasion and sovereign countries have a right to determine their alliances.

                What I think doesn’t affect the fact that US policy considers having a military base to be grounds for invasion. In fact, I have no influence on US or Russian foreign policy and what I think about it doesn’t matter. The fact is that the policy is pretty consistent (FWIW, out of the big powers only China hasn’t actively invaded everyone who drops a military base near them). Stick to the facts.