A bill that would allow police in France to spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, microphone including GPS of their phones has been passed.

A bill that would allow police in France to spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, microphone including GPS of their phones has been passed.

  • mrmanager@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Nice society we live in. All those sci fi movies was just giving ideas for the people who wants everyone to be under their boot.

  • cygnus_velum@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 year ago

    How is this even feasible on Android or iPhones? Are they going to force everyone to download Team Viewer or something?

    • Spiracle@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      While this news article is, apparently, not trustworthy, in general, France could demand every phone sold in the country include some kind of spyware. Many sellers already add a lot of programs by default anyway, so this would be how I image it might be implemented.

      Given that 7 people were recently arrested for using privacy respecting tools like the Signal messenger and Protonmail, removing that bloatware/spyware might then be cause enough to arrest you. After all, only terrorists want to have privacy, right?

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Everyone causally saying the government can just do it with Pegasus is ignoring the fact that Pegasus itself is an exploit. It is a hack, to breach your personal device. If I used the same methods to get into a bank’s systems it would be a violation of the law. Same if I created this software and gave it to you for the same purpose. Ask yourselves why it would be permissible to sell this software then commercially? And, why is it permissible for the government to use it to hack your own devices. Let’s not just brush over this discussion like it’s nothing.

      • _wintermute@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Nobody ignores the fact that government is doing something illegal when the conversation about their rampant spying happens. You may just be late to the party. We all know it’s illegal, unethical, and immoral. It basically comes down to this:

        What are you going to do about it?

        We’re living in objectively dystopian times. Our government does illegal shit literally all the time and gets away with it.

        • Spzi@lemm.eeEnglish
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          1 year ago

          What are you going to do about it?

          The very least people can do is talk about it and acknowledge it’s bad.

          Acceptance and normalization support the other side.

          • _wintermute@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 year ago

            My generation has talked it to death. It’s pretty agreed upon that we’re being fucked and have very little power to stop it. Eventually you don’t have time to rehash all the heinous shit that happens because you realize there’s a constant deluge of it. Has nothing to do with “supporting the other side” lol. If reality has got you feeling insane, well, you’re on the right track.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      There is something to be said for bringing your phone to protests so you can livestream them to the world when the authorities use heavy-handed, violent tactics to stop them.

      • Naja Kaouthia@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 year ago

        While I agree that filming is important, it’s also important to remember that between the J6ers being dumb fucksticks and their social media site being absolute dogshit, a lot of them were caught because EXIF data wasn’t scrubbed. Having one’s phone with you could end up being the thing that gets you prosecuted.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Maybe the solution is to get a burner phone for protests? Because being able to livestream them is pretty important these days.

    • guyrocket@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      I would suggest getting one of those faraday bags that block the signals to/from the phone. Then, if you really need it, you can still use it.

    • nargacu83@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I can’t even reconize my country values for the past few months and yet it’s only the beginning for the current government, we still have 4 years to go with Macron. Who knows what ideas they hold for the future.

  • Boabab@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    There is so much news like this coming from France lately. What is going on over there?

    • Tigbitties@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Huge wealth gap. Poor people are treated like shit. They’re are hungry and angry. Historically, the French are quick to protest and the rich are doing what they can to stop it. I believe we’re getting a glimpse of what is going to happen all over the world soon.