• Carlo@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Slavery requires a lack of compensation, which was nowhere implied. A mandatory civic responsibility to participate in the government—a government that everyone benefits from, and one that doesn’t fucking work if people don’t participate—does not meet any definition of slavery.

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      9 months ago

      Slavery requires a lack of compensation,

      No, that is a definition that was constructed as apologism for various different forms of forced labor

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        9 months ago

        Be that as it may, a civil service obligation does not meet any reasonable person’s definition of slavery. Equating the two is both offensive and fallacious.

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          9 months ago

          A lot of reasonable people define forced labor as slavery:

          The condition of a slave; the state of entire subjection of one person to the will of another.

          A condition of subjection or submission characterized by lack of freedom of action or of will.

          Forced labour, or unfree labour, is sometimes used to describe an individual who is forced to work against their own will, under threat of violence or other punishment. This may also include institutions not commonly classified as slavery, such as serfdom, conscription and penal labour. As slavery has been legally outlawed in all countries, forced labour in the present day (frequently referred to as “modern slavery”) revolves around illegal control.

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            9 months ago

            None of the examples listed correlates with a civil service obligation. Based on your statements here, I don’t believe you have any idea what you’re talking about. I’ll not waste any more of my time indulging you.

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              9 months ago

              Forcing someone to do civil service is unfree labor, depriving you of freedom of action. Also, you can disagree without being rude.