• gerikson@awful.systems
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    8 months ago

    The comments are the best part.

    And by best, I mean worst.

    Thank you for trying!

    We also made sure to enjoy our trip and tried some Turkish coffee and petted some of the stray cats." (Awwww),

    Well, cats like fish too so this is relevant.

    One thing I reflected on after learning about your experiences is the challenge of getting in touch with other, non-EA established organizations

    Who knew that acting in a weird, insular manner would hinder the very thing that was attempting to be accomplished?

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      8 months ago

      The continuation of the stray cats thing:

      One of these cats gave me fleas so I will no longer engage in petting stray cats

      lol

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    8 months ago

    @dgerard @sneerclub

    i can’t believe I read this whole article. They somewhat buried the lede with the paragraphs about emailing farmers twice and that was it. Apparently shoe leather and knocking on doors was not an option. They did also go to a conference and have coffee and pet cats though!

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    8 months ago

    How delightfully ineffective

    (Seriously, what has Effective Altruism ever accomplished beyond buying castles?)

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      8 months ago

      The “malaria nets” side of it has done legitimate good, because they didn’t try to reinvent the wheel from scratch, stuck to actual science and existing, well performing charitable organisations.

      global poverty still gets a good portion of the EA funding, but is slowly falling out of the movement because it’s boring to discuss and you can’t make any dubiously effective startups out of it.

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    8 months ago

    TL;DR:

    Overall, despite the fact that the project “failed”, we see the overall experience as a positive one. Most new charities fail - that is part of the game. The important thing is to figure out as quickly as possible whether your idea is a good one, and we believe that we succeeded in doing so.

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      8 months ago

      the whole thing reads like a nonspecific job application to the EA-industrial-complex, actual “charity” irrelevant here

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        8 months ago

        Honestly, if they had taken just one evening to chill and put themselves in the shoes of the tired, overly spammed, unmotivated farmers; they would have instantly recognised that sending them a non solicited email with a nondescript, probably overly verbose request, would be the absolute worst way to go about reaching them. Save maybe for carving their message on a brick and throwing it at their main window.

        It looks to me as a typical case of “not my money, so let’s take things easy”. I would gladly make a study on how many failed charities would have been successful, would the funding depend on some basic metric. I would even do that as a charity. For, say, 30k. 🙃