• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    It is utterly bullshit. But is the app required for using the device?

    Also

    The subscription fee will only apply to people who make an account after August 21. Those who downloaded the app and made an account before August 21 won’t have to pay. But everyone will have to make an account; some people have been using the app without one until now

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          You can set the temperature and the cook time on the device without having the app at all. The biggest benefit of the app is that you get a notice when the water is to temperature, which for certain more sensitive foods is needed to put the food in. (If you’re doing a 24 hour slow cook, it’s not really needed, but if you’re trying to do something with more precise cooking lengths, you don’t want the variance of starting water temp affecting how long the food is in the bath.)

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            4 months ago

            Friendly reminder for others that you can setup this quite easily with home assistant and conditional notification alerts. I do it with my govee. Open. Source. Everything.

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              I looked into that and you need to build a Bluetooth bridge out of a ESP32. Pretty easy once you have the dev platform set up, but not for your average Joe.

              There is an anova integration, but depends on their cloud service. When they stop supporting old devices, they will no longer function.

              That’s what I understand anyway.

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                  Whoa! Really! That would be awesome. I couldn’t find it at all last time I had it out. Interesting it would use govee though. Is there something special I’d have to do to set that up?

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        4 months ago

        Unless these people paid a premium for this kind of “smart” device vs. the cost of a basic version.

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          I think the bigger issue is that they’re bricking all support for the oldest models, trying to force customers to abandon a fully functional device just because they want more money.

          The app subscription fee is obnoxious as all get out, but punishing your oldest customers for your profit margins is what’s a bit infuriating.

          At least, imo.

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            Honestly, after a decade of keeping compatibility and stuff, and that the sous vide still works fine without the apk, I don’t really see this as much of a big deal. An apk for a sous vide is nearly useless, anyhow. What are you going to do with it?

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              It’s more about the principle. Why is it ok for a manufacturer to remotely disable a feature that was bought & paid for by a decades worth of customers?

              Now that they’ve done it once, what’s stopping future attempts to gin up higher profits using the same tactics?

              I don’t think anyone here is angry enough to go all Kid Rock on their Sous Vides, but I do think there are plenty who will look at a different brand when it is time for a replacement.

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                Well they’re on v3 now and this ends the version 1, so I doubt they’ve sold the v1 for the past 5 years or so, but again, it’s not an apk that you need to use it. If it were a device like a garage door opener that let’s you open/close or see when the door is opened or closed I’d be bitching up a storm. Same if it were like a door deadbolt to lock/unlock your front door. But a water cooker? What do you need the apk for? It couldn’t functionally do anything over bluetooth to be of any help.

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                  Would you buy a refrigerator from a manufacturer that wanted to make the ice maker a subscription service out of nowhere?

                  I get that the app isn’t a requirement for the device, but neither is an ice maker required for a refrigerator to function as designed.

                  They’re both features advertised as part of the original purchase price. Why does one get an expiration date out of the blue?

                  The people who are likely to be losing Bluetooth functionality are also the most likely to be from the original kickstarter batch.

                  Even if some-many of them have already upgraded to a newer model, that’s still one hell of a statement to make to your original backers.

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                    Your analogy is terrible. The cooker still works. Does the icemaker still work without the apk? If so, then what good is the apk on an icemaker in a fridge?

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        Except, prior to this announcement, there was apparently another statement from Anova that you can’t control the first gen ones.

        the announcement follows an Anova statement saying it will no longer let users remotely control their kitchen gadgets via Bluetooth starting on September 28, 2025.