Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    As previously mentioned, the ā€œBehind the Bastardsā€ podcast is tackling Curtis Yarvin. Iā€™m just past the first ad intermission (why are all podcast ads just ads for other podcasts? Itā€™s like podcast incest), and according to the host, Yarvin models his ideal society on Usenet pre-Eternal September.

    This is something Iā€™ve noticed too (I got on the internet just before). Thereā€™s a nostalgia for the ā€œoldā€ internet, which was supposed to be purer and less ad-infested than the current fallen age. Usenet is often mentioned. And Iā€™ve always thought thatā€™s dumb because the old internet was really really exclusionary. You had to be someone in academia or internet business, so you were Anglophone, white, and male. The dream of the old pure internet is a dream of an internet without women or people of color, people who might be more expressive in media other than 7 bit ASCII.

    This was a reminder that the nostalgia can be coded fascist, too.

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      I have a lot of time for nostalgia about older versions of the web, but it really ticks me off when people who actively participated in making the web worse start to indulge in nostalgia about the web. Doesnā€™t Yarvin get a lot of money from Peter Thiel?

      There were women and people of colour on the old web, they were just outnumbered and outgunned. One of the earliest projects listed on the cyberfeminism index are VNS Matrix, who were ā€œcorrupting the discourseā€ way back in 1991.

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        To be perfectly fair i was a very callow youth at the time and probably bounced off stuff like that had I come in contact with it.

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      why are all podcast ads just ads for other podcasts? Itā€™s like podcast incest

      Iā€™m thinking combination of you probably having set all your privacy settings to non serviam and most of their sponsors having opted out of serving their ads to non US listeners.

      I did once get some random scandinavian sounding ads, but for the most part itā€™s the same for me, all iheart podcast trailers.

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        The funniest thing I got was ads for Maybelline in a podcast about WW2. Know your audience!

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      (why are all podcast ads just ads for other podcasts? Itā€™s like podcast incest)

      Because they think you live in a real country, not the USA.

      old internet

      I wonder for how many people this is a reactionary impulse, wanting back to the ā€˜old internetā€™ they didnā€™t actually participate in. At least in modern days the flamewar posts are quite limited in length, in the old days they could reach novel sizes. Anyway sure we should go back to the old internet, where suddenly your whole university had no internet because there was a dos attack on the network to force a netsplit on an a random irc channel.