Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    re: election results. unfortunately iā€™m not surprised or even disappointed by now. it makes me feel sad for my 2015 self and her naivete. she didnā€™t understand what a disgusting and evil culture she lived in

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      The level of fucked we are is too big for words

      I wanted to say something darkly comedic about the AI bubble popping under the new regime, but my heart is too sick to make a joke

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      I think Iā€™m more angry than anything. l hadnā€™t realized how tight my media bubble had gotten and was pretty sure this wasnā€™t realistic. I had gotten myself ready for another round of 2020 nonsense and denial, not this.

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      Nashville, here. I hear ya.

      I donā€™t know what else to say, I canā€™t explain any of this, but also please know that youā€™re not alone out there.

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      I donā€™t have too much coherent to say right now

      fuck the fascists for what theyā€™ve done and what they intend to do

      fuck the neoliberals for doing their best to convince marginalized people that they shouldnā€™t defend themselves against a terrible fate

      fuck the accelerationists for pumping shitheaded propaganda into the fediverse, for the victory lap theyā€™re taking now, and for the general idea that their revolution is worth our deaths

      shitā€™s about to get very hard and very weird and I canā€™t stress enough how important it is to be careful who you trust with your life

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        what a surprise, the thread all the leftist shitposters on mastodon boosted about how youā€™re a class traitor if you donā€™t vote for the Green Party (who I donā€™t buy as socialist) or ā€œany other socialist partyā€ (fucking who??? am I supposed to write ā€œsocialismā€ on my ballot in crayon???) conveniently went missing

        anyway post your favorite fuckhead accelerationist here, mastodonā€™s a shooting gallery tonight

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          The bad guys have definitely learned a new sort of trick. Havenā€™t wrapped my head around it yet, but it is bad, innit?

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            Apologies for the screed:

            Quick recap:

            2016-2020: executive orders every day, non-elected positions being captured by conservatives, dems just hand-wringing and tweeting. but Dems get lucky with a pandemic and trump loses

            2021-2024: weekend at bidenā€™s.

            Where was the election reform? The dismantling or reform of the electoral colleges? The extra seats on the SC? Bribing the public with stimulus packages to boost the economy?

            Remember when we pushed Biden left? Remember when the dems preserved abortion rights, prevented the invasion of ukraine, and stopped bankrolling Israelā€™s genocide?

            ā€œexercise your democratic rights and voice by voting for our candidate that wasnā€™t democratically chosen as our candidateā€. ā€œvote blue and do not voice any critical thoughtā€. ā€œany vote that isnā€™t for the party that didnā€™t meaningfully reverse or prevent conservative actions is a vote for trumpā€.

            In sum: the bad guys didnā€™t do anything new.

            The closest we got to a trump loss was some republican spook who went to a trump rally with a gun because it was closer than the harris rally.

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              The thing thatā€™s most baffling to me is how the difference in ground game had zero impact. We were pounding the pavement, doors got fuckin knocked. The GOP did less than zero, firing their entire staff responsible for in-person outreach and gave 100 million to PACs run by grifters who put it directly into their own pockets.

              Unless weā€™ve missed a trick, retail politics as it has existed is dead.

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                Dem talking heads spending so much energy courting moderate conservative votes was an excellent way to demobilise their base. They really gave their all to lose an election that should have been a free win.

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                  This wasnā€™t a free win, however. The reason Harris took over in the first place was because Bidenā€™s performance in the debate was poor enough that the Democrats thought there was no longer any chance with him, and this was already with lowering approval ratings. Had he stayed, I bet Trumpā€™s victory would have been even wider.

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                  I mean, I donā€™t think it was unreasonable to expect liberals to show up against someone whoā€™s sole policy proposals were mass deportations and political reprisals, and so I can understand the logic of focusing on the center (which in US politics means center-right).

                  But this being the democratic party, they also couldnā€™t commit to an actual narrative to make that play. Rather than ā€œlook at their ties to Big Tech!ā€ or even sticking with ā€œlook how weird these people are!ā€ they had to go hat-in-hand and stake themselves to divisive (to say nothing of abhorrent) policies because thatā€™s the only connection they could try to make. I think weā€™re seeing a major problem with the whole ā€œbig tentā€ concept.

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                It was twitter. Elon Musk joins Trumpā€™s team. What happens? Harrisā€™ chances begin to drop.
                Trump did lose support, but there was probably enough propaganda on Twitter to make enough people go ā€œboth sidesā€ and just sit out the election.

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                  and of course, Twitter and Facebook style influence campaigns work just as well or even better elsewhere, in communities that havenā€™t hardened themselves against that type of bullshit

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                    2/3 of regular users donā€™t use adblock, cambridge analytica may be disbanded as a company, but the approach they made still is a thing

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                  IDK, do you really think twitter still has that much cultural relevance? ugh

                  Iā€™m sure it played a part, though.

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                    facebook is still big somehow and i see no reason why shrimp jesus irradiated brains of boomer population would be not susceptible to it like it was still 2016

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          i do love how the ā€œanti-imperialistā€ protest vote against harris was a choice between like three or four putin apologists. the state of the US left is really fucked up and i donā€™t want to look at it ever again.

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          anyway post your favorite fuckhead accelerationist here, mastodonā€™s a shooting gallery tonight

          Iā€™ve intentionally been avoiding feeds the last few days because I just do not have the headspace for it, but I quickly checked on shit now

          and

          fuck

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          Didnā€™t the Green Party woman also just go ā€˜Iā€™m pro Israelā€™ the day for the election or so? Which I think is one of the reason she might have picked up a few moves (the idea she might be more pro gaza I mean).

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        I canā€™t stress enough how important it is to be careful who you trust with your life

        strong agree

        minor upside: itā€™s going to be a good time to make lists of people who suddenly feel comfortable to mask off

        fucking fuck this sucks

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          minor upside: itā€™s going to be a good time to make lists of people who suddenly feel comfortable to mask off

          correct. keep receipts.

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      Yeah this is fucked up. I feel so bad for everybody (esp the Americans, but this will hurt the world). Shit this prob means I should start looking into seriously helping out locally when all this explodes into more international shit. (Which imho is the best you can do anyway, do things locally, build a bit of a support network for your community).

      (Note Iā€™m not American, but I think this will end badly, just the fucker stepping out of the paris accord for example, and all the weird blowhard fascists this will make feel emboldened to do more politics locally).

      E: I really hope the people who go ā€˜this is the same as in 2020, wait till all votes are countedā€™ are correct and not on hopeium.

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        Well, itā€™s more like 2000, really, in the sense that the courts are being used to restrict voting rights. Thereā€™s strong evidence of flagrant UOCAVA violations: thousands of absentee ballots which should affect the federal election have been challenged in swing states. Edit: Here is part 1 and part 2 from an attorney whose Pennsylvania UOCAVA ballot was challenged; he goes through the law and explains what heā€™s going to do.

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        yes, i am. iā€™ve been plotting to get out for years but iā€™ve been too depressed since my partner died to make any progress tbh. iā€™ve no idea what to do

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          I would suggest Canada, but weā€™re set to get our own Trump in power in about a year or so. Too many people looking on the house on fire and thinking that pouring gasoline on it is the best solution.