Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this.)

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    Yeah, as somebody in the USA, I think that both you and @gerikson@awful.systems are pearl-clutching over laboratory conditions while ignoring the other, more serious safety problems being addressed; the presentation was not exaggerating when they were talking about the lifesaving impact of gender-affirming therapy. Last thread, you sheepishly admitted that part of the synthesis is complicated by criminalization and over-regulation; this thread, Iā€™d like a sheepish admission that about a third of the USA (by population) suffers from restrictions on their reproductive rights.

    Like, yes, you shouldnā€™t brew your own high-proof alcohol at home, because you can go blind from methanol poisoning. But also, there was a time in the USA when high-proof alcohol was over-regulated, and it incentivized a lot of people to homebrew.

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      The US healthcare system needs to be fixed, and probably others as well.

      Synthesizing your own meds is not the fix.

      It is, at best, a band-aid. Having transpersons and pregnant women reliant on international drug networks (becuse realistically those are the orgs that are gonna step into this void if needed) is not a good outcome.

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      i see this all more as a publicity stunt/attention grab than anything else. i wrote there about naloxone because laufer has put much more information about naloxone than about anything else in question there. he has put naloxone structure on his website all the way back in 2016 with ā€œother moleculesā€ description, suggesting that thereā€™s some work in progress. now heā€™s talking about ā€œreleasingā€ procedure for naloxone synthesis ripped from a paper that came out in 2013, available on scihub for all to see. it took them so fucking long that since then: 1. availability of black market opioids shifted from genuine perc pills that you can divert from real pharmacy and that can be used to make naloxone, to possibly counterfeit ones containing fentanyl that you canā€™t. were he releasing this all the way back in say 2018, this still could be marginally useful. 2. since then naloxone has been made available OTC making cooking it on your own obsolete. 3. thereā€™s also an option of using some other antagonists that can use codeine as starting material - iā€™d like to see this regulated - but these come with more side effects and absolutely zero work has been done in this direction either. whatever heā€™s doing, itā€™s not particularly fruitful other than getting talks for people who donā€™t know any better

      this thread, Iā€™d like a sheepish admission that about a third of the USA (by population) suffers from restrictions on their reproductive rights.

      youā€™re saying this as if itā€™s american-only problem. diy hrt and diy plan-b were a thing way before laufer and will continue to be a thing until theyā€™re not needed, and these work by diverting legit pharmaceuticals. his miso card thing is possibly okayish if sealed but it works only because thereā€™s no synthesis involved, itā€™s diverting veterinary drugs, which is fine because itā€™s likely that these come from the same reactor anyway. if anything i guess he might be harmful in this one by bringing unwanted attention. if you take into attention that he floated an idea of making gene therapy on their own, with aim of introducing extra aromatase so that testosterone is transformed into estrogen almost completely, as an alternative to hrt, and possibly some other gene therapies, i cannot take him seriously. this gotta be a massive, overly long, deeply unserious attention grab. if itā€™s grift, itā€™s not a very good one, with $23k (current prices) in crypto donations since 2019 and $5/mo patreon

      and btw thereā€™s no methanol in moonshine, at least not in harmful levels. there is methanol in denatured alcohol in countries where regulators donā€™t give a fuck or where they believe that ā€œmorally deficientā€ people like addicts should suffer, like in US, in EU contaminants are nontoxic. methanol in counterfeit alcohol occurs only as intentional contamination and/or cost-cutting measure, or when whoever is cooking it does not know any better