Yeah, well what I’m saying is we’d do that to ourselves too; we’re not to be trusted with our own biology. Not yet, at least.

So a net positive? Like, I hear you that you don’t agree with everything he says or like him personally, but it sounds like you prefer (aka support) this outcome.

Yeah, and I’m still not sure how that happened or if democracy is here to stay, honestly.

I can’t really see things going back there economically, though - modern technology is just too good, and illiterate peasants can’t make it.

Edit: Unless we really fuck up and cause nuclear winter or something. I suppose if we’re starting from scratch being agrarian again is on the table.

For a while, and then it failed. Meanwhile, the Western world got more and more free market.

Correct. In the long run every sector is going to end up like agriculture in the Midwest - all the land is in use, it’s just a matter of planting and harvesting the same way each year.

It’s pretty unclear how much of the breeding 30000BC-1500AD was deliberate, and how much was just a kind of selection as people decided to eat their naughtiest dog when famine came. I’m talking about the highly-targeted breeding that brought us the pug unable to breath and German shepherds with back legs that stick out wrong because it looks cool.

Also, wolves are pretty good at what they do, I’m not sure it’s fair to say they’re worse than dogs somehow.

Ah yes, it was “Cloud” before, wasn’t it?

Radio for the 30’s. Atomic for the 50’s. Mass production for the old 20’s, maybe?

I just like, don’t believe it. Capitalism is hundreds of years old, and it’s only gotten stronger.

Spontaneous revolution/organisation for revolution has been promised for a long time, and is no closer to happening.

Leave if at all possible. If not possible, set things up to increase the chance you will be able to one day - maybe move to near a border or something, and make sure your documents are handy and you have cash on hand or similar.

Yeah, but which one gets to rule next? That’s why monarchy has been so successful - the king’s firstborn my be a moron, but there’s (roughly) guaranteed only one, and palace intrigue under a difficult-to-directly-challenge figurehead is a Nash equilibrium.

Unless he dies in the first year or two it doesn’t change the possible outcomes too much, I don’t think he’ll be immediately ousted and things go back to normal, which is kind of what you’re getting at.

I guess it’s bait, in that I was hoping for a response, but isn’t that exactly what was said here? The downvotes make me think the rest of you agree, too.

You know that’s not literally true either - America has a reasonable literacy rate. I have no interest in shitting on people, or being shit on, goodbye.

We probably do. Far-left spaces are their own thing, and are almost always labeled as such since it’s a tiny, insular group.

Uhh, just in the sense of being a weak democracy that backslid? Lots. The OG fascists in Italy come to mind. In the really long run they tend to own themselves. If they survive, it’s by turning into the tried-and-true aristocratic autocracy.

Spain made the transition back to democracy peacefully, because Franco set it up to go that way once he died, and there was a lot of outside cultural influence to support it. That being said, I don’t know all the details there, and it’s a pretty unusual case. Italy got owned in war. Lots get owned by a series of coups, like Yakubu Gowon’s Nigeria, for one example.

The US is a new thing, though, in that usually the new dictator isn’t a crayon-eating moron, and never before has it happened somewhere with no living memory of authoritarian politics (which seems to make a huge difference). It’s not going to be exactly like anything else. I answered how I did because Orbon was elected but doesn’t really have a clear ideological agenda beyond power, while Hitler used his executive power non-subtly to shut everyone else down, which seem like the inevitable near-future features of new America.

I’m not even American, it says so in my username. Maybe you’re illiterate.

In the US? Probably Hungary, with a bit of Germany or Chile mixed in because Trump is too dumb to be Orban successfully.

The exact breakdown between the two is hard to say in advance.

Sus.

Okay, have you considered old-fashioned “photoshopping” (preferably with GIMP)?

Then how am I reading, huh? You just like insulting people, don’t you?

That’s still a form of being pro-Trump.

Yeah, in heavily left-wing spaces guns give people the wigglies. Even if it’s not rights, the general fact we live in a world with them is something people try to memory hole.