It’s good practice to link the pamphlet or at least name it

Like all things, there is variance. We know it is unfair to conflate all MLs with “patsoc” or red/brown types. Even if we still disagree with them, let’s have a little bit of charity for the good faith anarchists.

I think you’re mistaken and reasoning backwards from the assumption that these are anarchists who re-adopted neoliberalism rather than liberalism who found anarchism to be the most appealing consumer-identity without really challenging most of their existing ideology or assumptions.

lmao concern trolling about homophobia and then calling someone a cock-sucker

Do you not notice how you’re falling on the side of liberal anticommunists even within this thread? I think by that alone it would be worth seriously considering if you had been misinformed on some of these issues.

Who did Guevara “genocide”? You seem to be awfully casual in your use of that charge.

Careful, these liberals will attack Trotskyists the moment they offer any positive opinion on the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. It won’t get you anywhere trying to be One of the Good Communists, it will just give you a chance to be a useful idiot for liberals who don’t actually support you.

Imagine cracking open Bernstein to attack MLs

It’s extremely Reddit, talking about “real fans” and “you became the villain” and such. At least the historical account is solid and it made a good point about revisionism.

(And except for Cambodia, those have always either been completely false, or gross exaggeration.)

Well, Cambodia was exaggerated too, it just wasn’t false like most stories are. Furthermore I’d add Peru to the list of socialist states (from when it was under Gonzalo) that can be pretty safely denounced, along with Cambodia.

Even in the case of bad leftwing governments like Cambodia and Peru, the truth and the mere actual crimes aren’t enough for the west, perhaps because then they wouldn’t be able to keep up with the imaginary crimes of the USSR, PRC, and DPRK!

I think you’re being sincere but it’s funny how you format it as “I do support communism but . . .” since that’s sort of the meme. Anyway, I think a couple of other people here are doing just fine but if not, you can let me know and I’ll give explaining it a shot.

Edit: I will say of the Great Firewall that its main purpose isn’t censorship but minimizing the market share taken up by foreign websites like Facebook, Twitter, Google, and so on. Such a thing would represent a serious national security concern, both because of their nature as western corporations wanting to undermine other domestic business and also because they work with western intelligence, along with China just being able to get more money and more development of domestic talent by having its big websites be domestic.

It’s easy to access the outside internet, just use a VPN. The state doesn’t care about your personal internet use unless you’re doing something more overtly suspicious (and I mean like communicating with foreign powers, not posting on Instagram like a normal person).

It always frustrates me a little when people look at a problem and say “that’s just how things are.” Here it’s the thing about humans being violent. In a trivial sense, that is true, but I think that obfuscates that in most situations violence has a set of politically-meaningful sources, even if it’s personal violence. Being beaten as a child, being forced into crime, being taught that violence is appropriate to protect your “pride”, the Other being dehumanized, the list goes on.

Well, aside from that violence does still exist outside of states as you say, it was to explain my earlier comment about all states being violent, since their role is to mediate class antagonisms, which has historically manifested as the owning classes keeping the bulk of the working classes in a state of desperation for the sake of manipulating bartering power.

In a Marxist sense, any class society has a state, but that’s a little beside the point.

All states are fundamentally violent, what are you imagining to be a “decent” country where there is no violence by the state?