there are a few of us still bodging around out here.

I’m curious if anyone has experience with this stuff with an AMD card.

If I could finally ditch my windows gaming rig I would be a happy man.

And the incorrect assumptions just continue…

Edit: Who I am shouldn’t matter to you. Addressing the idea that you can shift some or all anti-cheat to the server is something you should try to engage with directly rather than appealing to authority. For what it’s worth, I’ve spent time as a programmer in the game industry in a handful of different roles and your search will eventually find me if you keep going down that road. My experience isn’t what I am arguing here, though.

Frankly, I feel like it’s wrong for you to say that the problem is pushed onto users when you don’t understand the code and effort the developers are writing to solve this issue specifically with counter-strike

You are the one who continues to make assumptions about what I do and do not understand about the code that makes this work in various games.

I don’t really feel like getting into the nitty gritty here in comments, but if your experience is what you say, I’m very surprised at some of your unqualified statements.

I’ll bow out now.

you better watch out for the DS9 people…

I wrote a snarky response because of the final insulting comment in yours but then thought better of it, going to try to address a couple of your points legitimately even after the unnecessary personal attack.

It’s a lot cheaper to make your server dumb. It costs you less in programmers with deep multiplayer programming experience, it costs you less in ongoing hosting because of reduced CPU usage, and it makes the problem less “yours” as a developer.

I’m saying that’s shitty that the developers will try to save money that way rather than investing in actual effective, privacy-respecting cheat prevention.

Your argument seems to be that a quake-style predictive algorithm is the only solution possible for online games. I doubt that is the case, but even if it were, using some raycasts on the server for some basic sanity checks on what data to send to players is an example of where lots of developers just can’t be bothered.

If you want to dismiss machine learning as heuristics, I’m sorta ok with that, as I think they are just glorified heuristics, but even the most basic analysis isn’t done by most developers. Instead, they rely on the sales pitches of various anti-cheat software and don’t implement anything beyond it, even when there might be some low hanging fruit.

I am not saying developers are lazy, there’s tons of stuff to work on. I am mad that this problem gets repeatedly pushed onto the users rather than the developers, though, and I think it’s reasonable for me to offer some pushback when both my CPU cycles and my privacy are being abused.

people really enjoy the boot of anti-cheat on their necks.

maybe these companies could move their cheat detection to the server where they control the code. maybe don’t just send all player positions so wall-hacks become impossible. maybe use some machine learning to look at input patterns and detect when a player is sending things that don’t look human.

the list of things companies could do to actually fix cheating in pvp games is long and all they want to do is pay for ridiculous anti-cheat that impacts normal users.

ridiculous.

At this point does Google ever do anything that isn’t awful for the consumer?

Eject, friend, eject!

this is how the fediverse starts to take over and I am here for it

Both sides are all just humans being the worst we have to offer as a species.

Egged on by ridiculous stories about men in the sky, they fight for no reason when we could all just treat each other as human.

Not going to agree with the commenter above, but I want to point out that this happens a lot:

A person who holds views that are detrimental to others comes to a community of those people and cries “why, when I am not quite like other people who hold these views, but agree with them on the detrimental stuff about you, do you not accept me?”

The people in the community try repeatedly to explain why holding views that harm others is harmful and that the person asking may need to revaluate their own views.

The person then says they’re being attacked. Everything they predicted about this community is coming true! They feel like they’re being kicked out!

And they are! Because when they came to engage then didn’t change, let alone evaluate, any of their own views, the community rightly showed them back to the door until they are ready to actually listen and put themselves in someone else’s shoes.

I am sure you feel like you have been badly treated at this point. What you do with that now is up to you. I’ll say this: I have no hate for you, I would like nothing more than to give you some feedback that might help change how you view some things. I hope there is enough food for thought here for everyone.

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I find it positive to think about these writers, inspired to try to create something scientific and exciting but lacking the education themselves to do it justice, but then inspiring generations to learn and explore, who then return having learned enough to spot the problems.

I hope Star Trek can use science, and the generations of fans now inspired, to keep pushing these stories further because it feels like our collective need for Star Trek’s vision is as deep as ever.

I understand, that’s why I was trying to translate their statement into reality-based words. I thought you were defending their position based on your response.

But … they don’t mail the pills randomly. A person in the state where it is outlawed is requesting something from a state where it is not.

I don’t see how the CA doctors are in any way colonizing anything.

The California Catholic Conference opposed the law, arguing the state is “engaging in ideological colonization against states and citizens that do not want abortion.”

Are … are they trying to say CA doctors are mailing abortion pills to people who didn’t ask for them? What does this statement mean? Maybe what they meant was something like: “We do not believe women have a basic right to control their body, whether those women are Catholic or not, and that control should rest with the government of the state they reside in.”

Since it seems we are covering personal opinions, I think this is like all pride: sometimes it can be good and sometimes it can be toxic, often depending on who the person feeling prideful is.

I made no value judgement on this. I just pointed out this is common and it is surprising if someone doesn’t understand it.

You may not agree with it, but you understand it exists and that it is often tied to how someone is raised.

You seem very confident in a lot of what is written in a very old translation of a hodpdge of work.

You are drawing a conclusion I do not from the same text.

It seems odd to me that a divinely inspired work could be so confusing or open to interpretation.

And given so very many passages where Jesus calls for love, why do you spend so much time justifying your interpretation that says Jesus hated a particular group?

There may be food for thought here for both of us.

I’d be interested if you could share the original text, what you’ve shared is a translation. I don’t read Sanskrit or Aramaic so I am not sure I’d be super useful, but I imagine other people might be able to help.

It isn’t my holy book. I read enough as a child to figure out it wasn’t a divinely inspired work.