you dumb piece of shit.
😢 I know, I’m sorry, I’m trying
here we go again
is also: @experbia@kbin.social
was: /u/experbia
you dumb piece of shit.
😢 I know, I’m sorry, I’m trying
happens more than you might think. 4chan is a weird unique place. it’s mostly unmoderated, which makes it the default locale for a lot of unsavory people tossed out of all the nice clubs. but it’s not ONLY the unsavory people (the worst of which tend to keep to themselves anyway)
mostly, the result of the low level of moderation and lack of personal control over what you see (no “feeds” or anything, it’s just a plain forum) is that you see a lot of people “raw”.
they have no account attached to their posts, certainly no real identity. can this make shitty people feel emboldened to say shitty things? yes. can it lead to surprisingly meaningful moments of actual vulnerability between people who have no reason to hide? yes that too.
most of the non-extremist users of the site are, I think, people who prefer and engage with the latter, while just scrolling past the cringe edgy teenagers and dollar tree nazis thinking they have a secret club.
it is hard to find this kind of honesty and depth on other social media sites. reddit was a bit closer than the rest for a while when they had a very liberal registration policy (email didn’t even need to be verified so throwaway accounts were common and accessible) but I think they’ve cracked down on that a bit in the name of ad profile profitability. even having an account that can “be found” by people you know or future friends you meet on the site can keep you from being willing to be totally open. on low-moderation anonymous forums like 4chan, there’s no reason to worry about your “persona” or reputation. in fact, users who seek either tend to be universally ridiculed for it and told to return to other vapid sites.
it also has a reputation for its users being, um, generally some kind of neurodivergent. I think this is because of the very low quantity of social rules that have any consequence. social rules are exhausting, easier to just stay quiet past a certain point.
it’s so fucked how often they’re right to be suspicious about motives but only apply that suspicion to other industries or groups who aren’t trying to trick them, and never their own, which are. I guess the first step a cult must take is immunize people against being affected by any other outside forces, malicious or not. they’ll always implicitly trust the cult leaders who “let them in” on how their control works.
These products are not built for consumers.
they’re often built for investors. they are feasible enough products that some people will even buy them, so you get investors. then, the thing is always just “one more issue we need to fix” away from “mass adoption”, “for real this time”… to keep milking the investors as long as possible.
When was it ever about improving it for the end user?
back in the day when it was about building the best interface you could to last the product lifespan, maybe.
that’s not profitable for the designers tho - chasing the current design meta is their version of planned obsolescence for interfaces. “oh that interface looks old so it doesn’t work anymore” - statements dreamed up by the deranged and greedy.
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bunch of fucking interface designers so deep into their shit that they’re forcing everyone to chase the UX meta and play ranked competitive UI when 90% of everyone is just trying to be casuals and play what they’re accustomed to so they can unwind at the end of the day
“yes well you see moving every interface element on your computer to a totally new location results in a 0.0001% improvement in the average user’s workflow, therefore: bite the pillow, changes are coming, we’re the experts you dumb schlubs!”
I agree folks are overestimating how many will switch. but also maybe you’re underestimating too - a lot of browser installations are managed by the “family tech guy”. the father, mother, brother, sister, aunt or uncle who sets up everyone’s new laptops on Christmas and has the suggestions when you look for a new phone. we all know the type. a lot of us are the type.
setting up granny’s laptop? I’ll install whatever browser lets me automatically block the most “1000th visitor!” banner ads and change the desktop icon to the old AOL icon because that’s all she knows the internet as. she doesn’t know of care about the browser options so it’s up to me. Chrome used to be fast and simple so it was the right choice. Firefox has caught up a fair bit on UX simplicity and speed and now offers better blocking and general security, so it just stole the crown for these installations imo. I trust it more to not let her mess the computer up, so even if I’m not using it as my main personal browser, it gets use here.
weird. who could have predicted a rug pull from an analytics and spyware company… lol.
if you get in bed with adtech vipers and don’t anticipate problems, you’re gullible as hell. if you don’t stop them (or worse, if you let them) ad people will sell you, your soul, and your passion to the devil for a single penny.
yep. “oh, no shit? here I was thinking it was because they lacked the koalafications… smh”
are… are they trying to subliminally message an increase in love of burgers in people?
yes, they believe it’s one of the “in plain sight” pieces of evidence - that when you’re born, you have to have a berth (maritime) certificate that makes you like, property of the state or something because you’re recorded as “docking” with the country (which is actually a corporation that wants to own you and use your cache of money they hide from you that you receive at birth), and “they” get away with the ruse because us normal rubes just never think to ask if they said “berth” (maritime) or “birth” (reproduction). not even joking lmao
it is a funny pun, too, but they really think birth certificates are, in fact, secretly “berth” certificates for them in maritime trade law, which they believe is the only real law, in which we are all like… sovereign vessels that have been duped into signing away our independence.
me too! look at us, we’re fucking fabulous. LinkedIn should fear us.
i was considering how to more fully reply to all this but it just seems more and more like you’re either intentionally being disingenuous or are maybe too oblivious to see that being put in the crosshair of 150+ million people’s violent, purity-obsessed, hate-driven political ideology is itself a mortal threat. i’m suspecting the prior given how clearly you muddy the analogy to insinuate that i somehow think it’s reasonable to shoot a schoolyard bully dead for pushing me on the playground, as though any sane human wouldn’t think that an overreaction.
but sure, a public plan to eliminate the political voice of any “woke enemies” (that’s anyone LGBT or non-servile women btw) by replacing public servants with staunch ideologically-aligned republican loyalists and leave us with no options to resist except violence definitely deserves no second thought. definitely should not be considered a threat, sure, ok.
a non-violent system of addressing political differences only works if everyone’s voice can be reasonably heard. the system is barely doing that now, and will shortly be stifling a lot more voices that aren’t ideologically aligned with nationalistic christian conservatism the moment they get the power to do so. if they’re shutting down the system that prevents violence, the result should seem obvious. violence is happening now because people are trying to use the system, and it’s failing, and it’s getting further disassembled and stacked against them right now. that alone is directly threatening - but the fact that they couple this with loud fear-mongering intended to stoke people into a fearful, hateful panic over the particular group of people (who are also simultaneously getting silenced) should worry you even more, because this circumstance is actually threatening.
there was anti-asian violence (and worse) during ww2 when the rhetoric was “dirty japanese people are going to kill you and your family”. there was anti-muslim violence after 9/11 when the rhetoric was “dirty brown people are coming to kill you because they hate america”. there was anti-asian violence (again) during covid when the rhetoric was “dirty asian people are intentionally bringing the wuhan virus over to kill you and your family”.
now the rhetoric is “lgbt people are coming to shoot your schools up and rape your kids” - and wow i sure wonder what will happen next. those gays better not feel threatened or it’ll ruin my peaceful sunday, right? with the planned republican loyalist capture of government and the justice system, i also sure wonder what will happen the first time some poor gay guy is stupid enough to defend himself from an “in person” (seemingly this matters to you) attack by hitting back at the american pure-blood super-straight patriot actively assaulting him. will the (gay-hating christian republican) system work to exonerate him (a disgusting gay man who probably rapes kids according to our news and politicians) before a (gay-hating christian republican) judge and a jury of his (gay-hating christian republican) peers? lol hmmmm no you’re right there’s no threat at all.
Do you perhaps think an eye for an eye is a good concept to live by?
no, but nothing is so black and white. do you perhaps think that bullies should always be acquiesced to? that defending yourself from attackers is inherently and unilaterally immoral?
i’m trying to mind my own business and live my own life peacefully. they’re the ones constantly (publicly) cheering for me and my kind to be dragged out of our homes and shot for virtue of being born either non-white or non-straight (depending on flavor of republican, maybe both).
the reason violence is no longer acceptable as a mechanism for political change is that we built a system to address grievances without it: our representative democracy. we rose above the need by using the law to ensure everyone can be heard. Indeed the very system republicans are attempting to dismantle and replace with autocracy; they’ve already thoroughly corrupted the highest courts in our country to do so. they intend to continue to close all reasonable avenues of political resolution specifically for the purpose of being able to call any resistance to their rule “terrorism”, as you just have. this itself is an act of political violence.
if I corner you in an alley with a gun so you have nowhere to run and tell you to give me your wallet, but I haven’t shot at you or even aimed it at you yet, does this make me non-violent? is it acceptable? would you fight back, or capitulate? how about if I then tell you to leave but not your partner? would you fight back then, or just leave them to whatever fate might befall them? be careful with your answer: if you say anything other than “I’d leave them with you and continue about my day like normal”, you will be seen as a dangerous criminal. the police won’t help you, they don’t help your kind, and you probably brought it upon yourself in their eyes.
same. I see outrage-obsessed people constantly talk about how using a custom domain or (gasp) running your own mail server is internet suicide and literally impossible because your addresses won’t be seen as real or your mail will never get delivered by anyone. I’ve been doing both for over a decade with no trouble whatsoever, so I wonder how badly these folks are botching their mail setup to be getting that treatment.
wow gta 6 is going to be total trash, isn’t it
I agree with your general sentiment here (that such an arrangement is not trustworthy enough for me to feel completely private) but your delivery of said sentiment is really fucking rude, dude.
Even if it’s not secure enough for you or I to feel private, it likely exceeds the security necessary to satisfy most people’s threat models so they can not only feel private but objectively be more private than if they just used Google docs.
incremental or opportunistic privacy improvements are better than none, a fact that has seemed to be lost in elitist privacy circles these days.
my mistake. I thought they’d said “Tomato Tomato” but now I understand I misread it and it’s “Tomato Tomato”. I ought to be more careful.
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