• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    No, we’re “chortling” about both. You just wont see people discussing US censorship in a thread about CCP censorship, unless some asshat brings up a what-aboutism.

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      11 hours ago

      I think that both topics are on point. It is about IA programmed censorship, after all.

      People who complain about “whataboutism” usually dislike direct comparisons.

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      11 hours ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

      If the crux of your argument is based on an ethical or moral judgement you open yourself to whataboutisms. Otherwise any time any one brings up hypocritical behavior it would be a fallacy.

      On the other hand, if you simply observe a fact, like this censorship, people who bring up a whataboutism are actually engaging in strawmanning.

      Tl;Dr whataboutisms are a disputed fallacy and it quite frankly probably depends on context and motivation for whether it counts

      My personal guideline is when it’s being used as a defense or excuse instead of a refutation of a claim (explicit or implicit) of moral or ethical superiority.

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        16 hours ago

        The fuck are you going on about? All I’m saying is is that the only reason you might hear about [topic x] in a thread about [topic y] is people deflecting.

        Want to complain about American censorship? Make a new post. Plenty of things to complain about now. You’ll see plenty of the same people,