• jonne@infosec.pub
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    21 hours ago

    It’s a CIA front that mascarades as an aid organisation. Part of the US’ soft power projection. I’m guessing for all their talk about hating China, they’re really keen on China taking on the role the US has been playing since WWII, as they’re simultaneously doing their best to undermine the US dollar as the global reserve currency.

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        4 hours ago

        That’s because it’s batshit crazy. Off to the right start, but no, the CIA is not secretly undermining the US for the benefit of China, wtf

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      You think that the CIA pretends to be an international aid organization for the sake of advancing the interests of checks notes… China? The 3-letter agency that has spent decades building and maintaining American hegemony is now serving that same purpose for a rival nation? And the people that have also spent decades building for this moment to take over the federal government entirely… want to now give their power away? … what?

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        4 hours ago

        The first two statements are describing USAid and the last sentence is a sarcastic remark, indicating taking it down is working in Chinas best interest. Thats how it reads to me.

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        3 hours ago

        Here’s an article that casually lays out the ties.

        As for USAID helping China, I don’t see how you could’ve read my comment like that. I’m saying defunding it helps China. One of the roles of the organisation is providing aid to friendly countries. If that stops, the countries will stop being friendly and will look for other countries to provide aid. It looks like someone deleted my comment, but I thought I was pretty clear about that.

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          There’s a lot of taking anti-western government’s word at face value with no modern evidence in that article. The Cuba thing is well documented, in fact it’s documented well enough that it looks like it was an unsanctioned operation that got shut down when the higher ups learned about it. Everything modern after that relies on the reader nodding along with the Cuba stuff as evidence for all of the unrelated stuff after it.

          That’s a pretty manipulative form of writing and it immediately makes me think there’s no actual evidence for those other allegations.

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          2 hours ago

          I’m guessing for all their talk about hating China, they’re really keen on China taking on the role the US has been playing since WWII, as they’re simultaneously doing their best to undermine the US dollar as the global reserve currency.

          I’m genuinely having trouble understanding your comment then.

          Who is “they” in the quote above?

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            2 hours ago

            The Trump admin, who just stopped funding USAID. They are seperate from what has historically been the foreign policy consensus. Whether intentionally or due to incompetence, that’s going to be the effect of their actions.

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        8 hours ago

        Because trump views ties as weakness. He thinks isolationism is strength. The exact opposite is true - our ties and treaties, both hard and soft power - have ensured American strength for a century.

        Trump is going to set all that ablaze because he can’t think further than his own experience: fuck everyone else to get ahead.

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        15 hours ago

        They’re not doing it on purpose. The people currently making these decisions do not understand the government, what it does, why it is powerful, where the money comes from, etc. It’s like someone stripping the copper wiring out of their own house.

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          Yeah, that could be it. It’s highly irrational to me, and only a pathological greed combined with a complete lack of understanding that money without a functioning society means jack shit. Yes, you’ll be rich, but you built a society where you’ll need to fly in a helicopter between your properties over slums.

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        Trump is keen on doing it because he’s being told to do it by the people who control him.

        Russia and China are allies and in BRICKS. Russia paid for Trump to get elected twice.

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        16 hours ago

        I don’t know, the American Empire basically exists to serve billionaires like him, I don’t see how a Chinese takeover would serve them, as they just disappear billionaires if they don’t get in line.

        I guess they just want to turn the USA into what Russia is now, but even there you really don’t want to get on Putin’s bad side or you lose everything. It’s honestly very irrational IMHO, as the US has the right mix of opportunity and lack of any personal risk for the wealthy. They want to turn the US into a crime ridden shithole where they’re beholden to the whims of Trump or whomever follows him.

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          8 hours ago

          Each of them personally wants to be Putin and cannot comprehend the idea that they won’t be at the top of the pile when the ashes fall.