• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    3 days ago

    In U.S. you would still have to participate in Democratic primaries so this would come down to creating a new wing inside democratic party. This was done before and didn’t change much. The geriatric party leaders would still control everything.

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        2 days ago

        In democracies with multi-party systems you have two voting rounds. In first every party presents a candidate. If anyone gets over 50% of votes he wins and that’s that. If no one gets more than 50% two candidates with most votes go to second round.

        In U.S. you have only one round and usually it’s super close. If 3rd party candidate enters the race and gets even 1% of Democrat votes the Republican will win for sure. That’s why Bernie took part in Democratic primaries. His only chance was to win those and run as Democrat candidate. That’s also why Tea Party and MAGA movements were integrated into Republican party even though they started outside of it. If you want 3rd party candidates to run in elections you would have to change the system completely.

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              2 days ago

              I’m not sure. Claude said


              Forming a new political party in the United States is a complex process that involves navigating federal and state regulations. Here’s a step-by-step guide:

              1. Develop your platform: Define your party’s core values, positions, and policy agenda to differentiate it from existing parties.

              2. Create an organizational structure: Form a committee with leadership roles (chair, treasurer, secretary) and establish bylaws governing your party’s operations.

              3. Register at the federal level: File with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) by submitting Form 1, “Statement of Organization” if you plan to raise/spend more than $1,000.

              4. Register in individual states: Requirements vary significantly by state, but typically include:

                • Gathering signatures (ranging from hundreds to hundreds of thousands)
                • Filing specific paperwork
                • Paying filing fees
                • Meeting state-specific thresholds
              5. Build local chapters: Establish a grassroots presence by organizing at the local level in communities across your target states.

              6. Field candidates: Run candidates in local and state elections to build visibility and credibility.

              7. Work toward ballot access: Each state has different requirements for getting your party on the ballot, often requiring a minimum percentage of votes in previous elections or petition signatures.

              8. Fundraise: Develop a funding strategy that complies with campaign finance laws and regulations.

              Think of forming a political party like planting a tree - you need strong roots (grassroots support), a sturdy trunk (organizational structure), and many branches (local chapters) before you can bear fruit (electoral success). The process requires patience, as most successful third parties in American history took years or decades to establish themselves.

              For more detailed information, you might want to consult your state’s secretary of state office website or the FEC website (https://www.fec.gov/).​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

              • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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                2 days ago

                I wasn’t taking about forming a new party. There are many parties out there already. People’s Party, Green Party, Libertarian Party… I’m talking about why people don’t vote for them. If Bernie and AOC formed a new party they would face the same issues as all the other parties. In the end they would have work with Democrats and most probably would be absorbed by them.