• notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I consider enabling the “stick” to be beat the fuck out of you just because you’re “not into carrots” to be objectively stupid. I’m a Euro transplant and I can’t see how it is less stupid from a European perspective. The saddest part is that my wife and I have recession-proof professions, people who got us into this situation don’t.

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      4 days ago

      Every time you consider that not holding your opinion is “objectively stupid” you should stop a moment to reflect what those words mean.
      Your subjective opinion is that the democrats are the only viable alternative to Trump and so everyone must support them because the alternative is worse.
      It is a valid opinion, but it is not by far an objective truth.
      Another subjective opinion is that the entire bipartisan system is a single entity focused on maintaining the status quo, and that real change is not possible by voting democrat (or even by voting at all).
      It is objectively true that any effort towards strengthening the democrats is not spent elsewhere, and it is also an objective truth that there have been multiple democrat presidents in the last few decades and have been unable or unwilling to effect change to a degree that satisfies leftist voters.
      My European perspective is that defending corporate right as an alternative to fascism is an acceptable emergency measure while there are big credible efforts for large scale reforms to at least have a real left voting option, but it’s not by far a solution to the problem.
      Maybe instead of calling “useless idiots” all those who didn’t vote for trump, your energy might be better spent trying to build a common platform with them, at least if you want them to vote on the next election.
      And if you want that common platform to be the democrats, they will have to change a lot.

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        4 days ago

        Every time you consider that not holding your opinion is “objectively stupid” you should stop a moment to reflect what those words mean.

        Thanks, but I’m past elementary school and not here to explain the difference between calling out a direct opposition between stated goals and actual actions, vs “my opinion is the only objective truth”.

        Your whole post is incredibly naive.

        My European perspective is that defending corporate right as an alternative to fascism is an acceptable emergency measure while there are big credible efforts for large scale reforms to at least have a real left voting option, but it’s not by far a solution to the problem. And if you want that common platform to be the democrats, they will have to change a lot.

        Like centuries of bipartisanism will be magically turned into a Euro-style multiparty coalition system in 3.8 years.

        It’s just fucking absurd that people can be beat up and tortured physically and psychologically but I’m being asked to be less mean because it will hurt feewings.