I see the rules currently state “Nothing from realistic models trying to generate real people.”

To verify I understand this correctly, does this mean realistic imagery is OK as long as it does not mimic the likeness of a real person (aka deepfakes)?

For example, a photo-realistic image of a body builder is OK, but a photo-realistic image of Arnold Schwarzenegger is not?

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    Agreed. Just finished doing some research on porn laws in the Netherlands since that’s where Burgit is hosted, and thus those laws need to be followed at a minimum. According to Wikipedia, realistic depictions of minors is illegal in the Netherlands, regardless of if a real person is depicted or not. There is an example exception that cherubs don’t count because the addition of wings makes them unrealistic, though that’s uncited. There was also an arrest of an individual who possessed simulated CP that was “indistinguishable from reality at first glance.”

    I’d say if someone’s going to post AI loli, it needs to be something that you could tell wasn’t real “at first glance.” Pixar or anime style at most realistic, for example.

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      I’d say if someone’s going to post AI loli, it needs to be something that you could tell wasn’t real “at first glance.” Pixar or anime style at most realistic, for example.

      Agreed. This was the standard in my head as well. If you have to look more closely, then it’s probably a gray area.

      This was about as far as I was willing to take it. I thought this was okay (otherwise I wouldn’t have posted it): https://burggit.moe/post/60884

      A lewd version of this, to me at least, would be a gray area. At the very first glance it’s realistic, but you quickly notice her eyes and fingers aren’t right and it’s obviously not realistic at all… but again, that first glance… especially in a thumbnail size (SFW): https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/109251066

      Something like this I assume is a hard no (NSFW: no nudity, but suggestive due to pose and swimsuit): https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/109306142

      Of course these are just my personal feelings on it. Would be curious to know if I’m in the ballpark.

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        For the Burggit rules, the first image (the one you uploaded) is very obviously not real, and is 100% allowed.

        The images you linked from Pixiv I would say would be a hard-no if they were uploaded here and would probably be deleted. I as a visually impaired person, could not tell the difference between either of those images and reality at first glance. The second one I couldn’t register as AI generated at all.

        The first pixiv image I did eventually register it was AI, but it took me a little while to do so, had to actively look for it.

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          The second one I couldn’t register as AI generated at all.

          Yeah that one’s pretty convincing. The scale of the fruit is way off (not even grapefruit is that big), but that’s about all I can see. It was a good call to have her hands behind her head. I have a suspicion that if the image were higher resolution that it’d reveal her teeth were a mess. EDIT: the shape of her eyes doesn’t exactly match, but that could be subjective.

          For the second one (on the same page), there are several tells: There’s a giant lemon that somehow has an apple stem (or that’s how it looks to me). The fingers on her hands are messed up. One hand has too many fingers, which creeps me out. Of course my choice in art probably creeps people out already, so… moving on. Her hair gets mixed in with the top edge of the towel she’s lying on. You can see how it somehow extends the towel upward in places, almost like you’d see with a selective blur tool. This kind of thing seems to happen a lot with complex boundaries in AI images. Messy hair in particular often has problems.

          EDIT: Oh, and I got carried away and forgot to write this, but: thanks for the review!