The âReaders added contextâ feature is the only good thing about Twitter.
Bro I love that Twitterâs fact checker is just so fuckin petty to Elon lmao
Iâm surprised he hasnât got rid of it yet. Maybe he has to have it in order to keep his few remaining advertisers?
The thing is, itâs usually long enough after his comments have had their impact that these additions are made. Itâs really his having/eating cake feature. He can say some out and out false shit, it gets picked up by his base and spread, the community mod a day or two later goes âactuallyâ, and if someone calls him out he can just say âoh but the community mod set things rightâ if he doesnât just outright ignore it.
It took a while for the note on âmakes no senseâ to show up, but that first one appeared almost immediately.
Is this legit? That isnât just ironic, but that last line is racists as hell. I mean, Iâm fairly certain heâs racist if this is real or not but that last part was just so explicit in it
I think sheâs attaching his chimp comment in her reply as a way of displaying his hypocrisy.
But Iâm not sure. Iâve never used Twitter and always find the screenshots stupid to read.
I didnât use twitter before Elon bought it, and have stayed much further away since he has. Itâs possible Iâm misreading due to something like that, but if I am thatâs also poor design. It looks like a legitimate reply to hers. If users can manipulate replies in line with their tweets that just makes the site even worse
Iâm not a big Twitter user but how you know this isnât a reply; firstly the date. The chimp tweet is 7 years old, the block conversation is from 3 days ago. Secondly, you see the white vertical lines between musks first and second tweet? That indicates itâs part of the same thread. The chimp tweet doesnât have one because the woman has âquote tweetedâ something he said in the past. Finally you see how âblockedâ is in bold in his last tweet? That happens when you search for a word - it appears in bold in the results. I believe the woman went to muskâs profile and searched all his tweets for âblockedâ. Then she quote tweeted it back to him in this conversation.
I think (I hope) the last line is from a completely different post, not a reply to the black woman. Tbh I thought it must have been a reply to someone with an NFT chimp avatar. Itâs much nicer here in my naĂŻve/sheltered mind than the real world đ
Itâs a different post/thread - you can tell from the time lines with the chimp one being made in 2018. However, no idea what the context of that was, and Iâm not going to use Xitter to find out.
Heâs a white South African whoâs daddy made his money with slave labor. Heâs definitely a racist.
Can someone ELI5 what is the âReaders added contextâ feature?
I havenât added one myself, but this is my understanding: all Twitter users can opt into the community notes feature but at first you can only rate notes as helpful or unhelpful. Once youâve rated 5 notes you have the ability to write your own. You can do so on any tweet, but if your note(s) donât get enough âhelpfulâ ratings, you lose your ability to write them. You have to go back to rating notes - once youâve rated 5 more you can write again.
When you add a note you chose a reason why youâre adding it, similar to explaining why youâre reporting a comment on lemmy. If you say that the original tweet is misleading you have to say why and provide a source. It only shows on the tweet to everyone if you get enough âhelpfulâ ratings from the people who have opted into the scheme.
Not very EILI5 but you get the jist!
Thanks, now I understand this better⊠And yeah this dude is a real jerk.
Heâs such an amazing piece of shit that he claimed âchimpâ was just local non-racial slang in totally not racist South Africa.
Why are people arguing about whether blocking on Lemmy is better or hypocritical or whatever? Iâm pretty sure this post is just about Elon being a hypocrite, and is saying absolutely nothing about Lemmy
I really donât know. But Iâve had to give multiple warnings, a temporary ban and a permanent ban already so I really hope we can just stick to enjoying musk being called out and not argue over irrelevant/nonexistent issues.
I second that.
Iâm confused. Isnât âblockâ on the fediverse essentially the same as mute on Twitter? Donât get me wrong, I dislike Elon as much as the next sane person does and I do like the idea of block as itâs implemented on Twitter vs fediverse, but I also understand why itâs not possible on the fediverse. So Iâm kind of just asking, isnât it kind of shooting ourselves in the foot to argue against him on this point? He can easily turn around and just say itâs the same way as the fediverse. And I feel like itâs even worse when we use the fediverse to make these accusations. It makes us look either stupid or hypocritical. I guess thereâs a small sliver of hope in the argument âyou should implement the best block the technology allowsâ but that seems a lot more nuanced then many people will listen to.
As far as Iâm aware âmuteâ means the other person can still see your profile and comments and they can still reply to those comments - they just wonât show on your feed or in your messages. This is absolutely useless if youâve been threatened or stalked by someone.
âBlockâ means the other person canât see your profile or any of your comments and you canât see theirs. Lemmy has âblockâ for users and âbanâ for admins and moderators. I wasnât aware that Lemmy has âmuteâ but Iâm not an expert.
Block on Lemmy doesnât prevent the blocked person from seeing your posts.
Edit: which is the crux of comparing mute on Twitter to block on Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon etc.
Even defederating doesnât stop them from seeing your posts. It just means you donât collect theirs.
Are you sure? I havenât blocked anyone on this account because the admins told me if I do I canât see that personâs comments in the communities I moderate⊠which rather interferes with moderating.
Can you block me for a bit so I can try it? Can you even block a moderator? You probably shouldnât be able to do that within the community they moderate because that completely defeats the object.
Youâre kind of proving my point. If you block me, it just means you canât see me.
Edit: the âproblemâ with blocking on the fediverse is that the concept of block needs to be implemented server side, not client side. So every instance would need to implement it meaning everything you post would have to carry the information of who you block. Itâs how publishing works in ActivityPub. Thereâs no way for another instance to know that you blocked XYZ so how would they know not to show you that post? Also in regards to defederating, publishing is basically a fancy RSS feed. Anyone can read it, even just you if you view that port. So itâs kind of just blindly shooting it out into the world. Defederating means you explicitly donât read certain RSS feeds but you canât stop them from reading yours. You could networkly block someone, but thatâs on a different layer of communication beyond the web applicationâs capabilities.
I wasnât arguing against your point, I just asked if you were sure because I didnât have any experience of it. If you shut down genuine discussions and questions with âyouâre proving my pointâ you prevent people from growing and learning. But whatever, have a nice day.
~~Dude, weâve had discussions before and Iâm all for you going somewhere else and suddenly complaining about how you had a bad time with me not providing you a genuine discussion, but when your whole comment reiterates my point, what are you expecting to happen? You just described that you were told XYZ happens and thatâs exactly what I said would happen.
Its becoming pretty fucking clear from my interactions with you that you donât understand honest discussions.~~
Edit: I realized a few minutes after posting it was another mod with a similar name. Came back to correct it. I got ahead of myself.
The rest of it still stands though. The behavior you were told would occur is the exact behavior Iâm describing.
I genuinely donât know what youâre talking about, but I do know youâre becoming aggressive and not only is that completely unwarranted, itâs against the rules of this community. I think itâs best we donât interact with each other at all, outside of moderating.
They wanted you to block them. So they could test if they could still see your comments after that.
That doesnât change anything. Theyâre saying they were told if they block someone, XYZ would happen. And XYZ is what I described. What would changing the direction do? Itâs like just asking to be on the other side of the exact behavior that Iâm describing. It doesnât offer new information.
Because they want to see if that is what actually happens. Come on man.
