Are you sure? I havenât blocked anyone on this account because the admins told me if I do I canât see that personâs comments in the communities I moderate⊠which rather interferes with moderating.
Can you block me for a bit so I can try it? Can you even block a moderator? You probably shouldnât be able to do that within the community they moderate because that completely defeats the object.
Youâre kind of proving my point. If you block me, it just means you canât see me.
Edit: the âproblemâ with blocking on the fediverse is that the concept of block needs to be implemented server side, not client side. So every instance would need to implement it meaning everything you post would have to carry the information of who you block. Itâs how publishing works in ActivityPub. Thereâs no way for another instance to know that you blocked XYZ so how would they know not to show you that post? Also in regards to defederating, publishing is basically a fancy RSS feed. Anyone can read it, even just you if you view that port. So itâs kind of just blindly shooting it out into the world. Defederating means you explicitly donât read certain RSS feeds but you canât stop them from reading yours. You could networkly block someone, but thatâs on a different layer of communication beyond the web applicationâs capabilities.
I wasnât arguing against your point, I just asked if you were sure because I didnât have any experience of it. If you shut down genuine discussions and questions with âyouâre proving my pointâ you prevent people from growing and learning. But whatever, have a nice day.
~~Dude, weâve had discussions before and Iâm all for you going somewhere else and suddenly complaining about how you had a bad time with me not providing you a genuine discussion, but when your whole comment reiterates my point, what are you expecting to happen? You just described that you were told XYZ happens and thatâs exactly what I said would happen.
Its becoming pretty fucking clear from my interactions with you that you donât understand honest discussions.~~
Edit: I realized a few minutes after posting it was another mod with a similar name. Came back to correct it. I got ahead of myself.
The rest of it still stands though. The behavior you were told would occur is the exact behavior Iâm describing.
I genuinely donât know what youâre talking about, but I do know youâre becoming aggressive and not only is that completely unwarranted, itâs against the rules of this community. I think itâs best we donât interact with each other at all, outside of moderating.
Yeah, I was actually coming back to apologize. It was a different mod with the same first half of your name. After posting, I was âwait⊠was it that mod?â I wonât name them fully but their name also started with âsomeoneâ.
Edit: realized I said I came back to apologize but never finished. So apologies. That was my mistake.
Edit: but the original concept still stands. You said you were told to expect the behavior I described. I donât understand how that would prove anything against my point.
That doesnât change anything. Theyâre saying they were told if they block someone, XYZ would happen. And XYZ is what I described. What would changing the direction do? Itâs like just asking to be on the other side of the exact behavior that Iâm describing. It doesnât offer new information.
I donât need to prove anything. Itâs just a matter of fact. And I even offered to help you see how it works and you instead decided to double down on believing I wouldnât do so.
Block on Lemmy doesnât prevent the blocked person from seeing your posts.
Edit: which is the crux of comparing mute on Twitter to block on Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon etc.
Even defederating doesnât stop them from seeing your posts. It just means you donât collect theirs.
Are you sure? I havenât blocked anyone on this account because the admins told me if I do I canât see that personâs comments in the communities I moderate⊠which rather interferes with moderating.
Can you block me for a bit so I can try it? Can you even block a moderator? You probably shouldnât be able to do that within the community they moderate because that completely defeats the object.
Youâre kind of proving my point. If you block me, it just means you canât see me.
Edit: the âproblemâ with blocking on the fediverse is that the concept of block needs to be implemented server side, not client side. So every instance would need to implement it meaning everything you post would have to carry the information of who you block. Itâs how publishing works in ActivityPub. Thereâs no way for another instance to know that you blocked XYZ so how would they know not to show you that post? Also in regards to defederating, publishing is basically a fancy RSS feed. Anyone can read it, even just you if you view that port. So itâs kind of just blindly shooting it out into the world. Defederating means you explicitly donât read certain RSS feeds but you canât stop them from reading yours. You could networkly block someone, but thatâs on a different layer of communication beyond the web applicationâs capabilities.
I wasnât arguing against your point, I just asked if you were sure because I didnât have any experience of it. If you shut down genuine discussions and questions with âyouâre proving my pointâ you prevent people from growing and learning. But whatever, have a nice day.
~~Dude, weâve had discussions before and Iâm all for you going somewhere else and suddenly complaining about how you had a bad time with me not providing you a genuine discussion, but when your whole comment reiterates my point, what are you expecting to happen? You just described that you were told XYZ happens and thatâs exactly what I said would happen.
Its becoming pretty fucking clear from my interactions with you that you donât understand honest discussions.~~
Edit: I realized a few minutes after posting it was another mod with a similar name. Came back to correct it. I got ahead of myself.
The rest of it still stands though. The behavior you were told would occur is the exact behavior Iâm describing.
I genuinely donât know what youâre talking about, but I do know youâre becoming aggressive and not only is that completely unwarranted, itâs against the rules of this community. I think itâs best we donât interact with each other at all, outside of moderating.
Yeah, I was actually coming back to apologize. It was a different mod with the same first half of your name. After posting, I was âwait⊠was it that mod?â I wonât name them fully but their name also started with âsomeoneâ.
Edit: realized I said I came back to apologize but never finished. So apologies. That was my mistake.
Edit: but the original concept still stands. You said you were told to expect the behavior I described. I donât understand how that would prove anything against my point.
Apology accepted.
They wanted you to block them. So they could test if they could still see your comments after that.
That doesnât change anything. Theyâre saying they were told if they block someone, XYZ would happen. And XYZ is what I described. What would changing the direction do? Itâs like just asking to be on the other side of the exact behavior that Iâm describing. It doesnât offer new information.
Because they want to see if that is what actually happens. Come on man.
Literally look it up. Itâs published documentation. Go ahead and block me. Iâll never know. Iâm tired of trying to prove a documented fact.
You havenât done anything to prove anything lol all youâve done is refuse to test it, get confused, and double reply to people trying to argue.
I donât need to prove anything. Itâs just a matter of fact. And I even offered to help you see how it works and you instead decided to double down on believing I wouldnât do so.