Itā€™s one thing to have differing views, but Iā€™ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far havenā€™t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit.

I am also glad that Iā€™m getting away from redditā€™s general political shitposting, which was more left leaning. You couldnā€™t have any proper discourse on there, and even I with my generally more left leaning views recognized that.

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        They donā€™t have that power, they donā€™t control most of the instances, if they do that on their own instances thatā€™s up to them. They couldnā€™t even secretly embed anything in the code to push an agenda since itā€™s open source.

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          They have that power on their own instance which is the ā€œofficialā€ instance and very popular.

          And it just sucks that the software is associated with tankies.

          They could silently change their own instance if they wanted to, there has already been some nonsense with them blocking kbin useragents.

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            Thereā€™s no ā€œofficial instanceā€, itā€™s free software - lemmy.ml isnā€™t even a recommended instance at https://join-lemmy.org .

            Itā€™s you thatā€™s perpetuating that association.

            You canā€™t base your software choices on whether or not you agree with their creators political beliefs or else you wonā€™t use anything. The creator of Javascript has expressed controversial opinions about same-sex marriage and most of the web uses it.

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                Thatā€™s because itā€™s a popular instance.

                Feel free to use what you like, of course, thatā€™s the beauty of the fediverse, but I donā€™t understand what youā€™re hung up about now having explained it to you.

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                  This is one of their announcement posts.

                  Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

                  Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as Iā€™m sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

                  So Iā€™ve spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and itā€™s pretty much ready to go. Unlike here weā€™d have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

                  Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but itā€™s been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

                  Raddle isnā€™t an option obviously since itā€™s run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

                  I wanted to ask ppl here if theyā€™d like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

                  I really donā€™t think itā€™s a wild stretch to say that the people who run an instance that is moderated with a clear political agenda, who actively say that their intent is to promote that agenda, and who are officially promoting that instance in their capacity as developers - are in fact doing so in order to promote that agenda.

                  But hey, maybe thatā€™s a reach.

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            Itā€™s an open source, open contribution project. It has one maintainer whoā€™s confused being angry at the capitalist class with a call to reflexively defend people who use the word ā€œcommunismā€ to justify whatever they want, but heā€™s not ā€œthe devsā€.

            No none seems to care when for-profit projects are backed by the slime of the Earth. Actual fascist Peter Thiel financially backed Reddit a decade ago, and people didnā€™t care. And Tencent, with actual and direct ties to the CCP has been a major investor in Reddit for years now.

            Reddit ran off of the direct support of white supremacists, anti-democracy advocates, and CCP supporters, and none of that was an issue for anyone until spez got stupid with some small developers.

            The tankie guyā€™s political influence will be miniscule in the long run. You canā€™t say that about Thielā€™s or Tencentā€™s.

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          It sucks that the official instance from the devs of the software denies human rights violations and supports authoritarian governments.

          That should not be where people land when looking for a reddit alternative.

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            Itā€™s not the ā€œofficial instanceā€, though. There isnā€™t an ā€œofficial instance.ā€

            Theyā€™re the devs that got the software started, but anyone can be a dev or fork the repository. Or write a new compatible server from scratch, like kbin.

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              Weā€™re not even using their software now. It shows the power of open source that all of this can coexist peacefully despite differing opinions.