The Paris Peace accords leading to a ceasefire in Vietnam were signed on January 27, 1973. To critics, “peace with honor” didn’t look that different from options available when Nixon first took power: “Kissinger and Nixon wasted four years of negotiations with the Vietnamese communists, agreeing to virtually the same peace terms in 1973 that were on the table in 1969,” argues Brigham. In total, 2.5 million to 3 million Vietnamese and other Indochinese and 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam. Hundreds more were missing in action.
On the other side of the equation, a consultant to the Johnson Administration on the peace process stood ready to pass information from the 1968 peace talks to Nixon, who then did his utmost to sabotage them, even though, according to the Logan Act, it is illegal for U.S. citizens “to engage in unauthorized diplomacy with foreign countries with intent to ‘influence the measures or conduct’ of a foreign government.” The informant from within the talks? None other than Henry Kissinger, who used his role as Johnson’s adviser at the peace talks to help secure Nixon’s 1968 victory.
You don’t get to claim you contributed to peace when you deliberately stalled it and lengthened the war and then achieved literally nothing at all in terms of improving the terms of the piece. His role in the negotiations was to ensure more people died.
You think you’re unique coz you’re contrarian and can think for yourself. You’re just more interested in being edgy.
And it’s not just lemmy, all of media has come out to remember who Kissinger really was. Except for Reuters. They suck.
Anyway, be brave and pick a side. There’s no high road here by taking a neutral stance on Kissinger. He was a monster and should be remembered as such.
Why do you feel uncomfortable with criticizing a mass murdering war criminal?
The dude didn’t hate communism for their values but for belonging to the enemy. He was a Jew but hated his own people (he said he’d gave been an antisemite if he wasn’t born a Jew, with a motivation as asinine as “they must have been doing something wrong to be persecuted for 2000 years”, as if he didn’t know what propaganda was), including ignoring executions of Jews in USSR.
He personally ordered THOUSANDS of bombings in Cambodia and in many many other countries, was responsible for multiple coups and replacing democratic leaders with dictators (this is not something you do if you genuinely belive in democracy over communism), and was an overall monster.
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Oh, look… the war criminal apologetics brigade has decided to show up.
Fuck Henry Kissinger.
I listened to 6 hours about the guy’s life and he sucks ass. Maybe you’d take your own advice if you’ve got the time
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-kissinger-94160733/
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bad troll
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you a bad troll because praising kissinger here is like shooting fish in a barrel. i mean, come on…
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top kek… happy kissinger death day to all
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Obvious troll is very obvious. Go outside and get a hobby mate
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You don’t get to expect wit in replies when your clearly have a negative amount
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More big words that weren’t needed
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Are you really pretending kissinger’s actions are entirely unknown to the world?
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What good did he do
Don’t bother mentioning that prize if you aren’t going to explain why he was given it
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He was not
https://slrpnk.net/comment/4371443
He was instrumental in making it last longer
He fought the nazis because he cared about personal power and US power, not because he cared about the nazis.
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I’m glad there’s at least one person against the dog pile. Nuance is lost here; this place becomes more like reddit every day. :/
Lol, go back to lurking bootlicker…
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Lol. Praising him for “ending” a war he was responsible for extending.
The Nobel peace prize is unfortunately worthless
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As a swede I know in detail why the peace prize sucks and “globalization” is just your excuse to not answer anything
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Unfortunately we get to hear all about them anyway
Replies and answers are not the same thing
https://bigthink.com/the-past/worst-nobel-peace-prizes/
https://www.reuters.com/world/nobel-prize-body-knew-kissingers-1973-vietnam-deal-unlikely-bring-peace-2023-01-11/
https://www.history.com/news/henry-kissinger-vietnam-war-legacy
https://progressive.org/magazine/kissingers-culpability-cords/
You don’t get to claim you contributed to peace when you deliberately stalled it and lengthened the war and then achieved literally nothing at all in terms of improving the terms of the piece. His role in the negotiations was to ensure more people died.
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His achievements can easily be googled. You agree with that or is it too “Hollywood” for ya. Too cliche to call him a villain.
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You think you’re unique coz you’re contrarian and can think for yourself. You’re just more interested in being edgy.
And it’s not just lemmy, all of media has come out to remember who Kissinger really was. Except for Reuters. They suck.
Anyway, be brave and pick a side. There’s no high road here by taking a neutral stance on Kissinger. He was a monster and should be remembered as such.
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You have an insufferable personality and you’re not as profound as you think you are.
You’re the flat earthers of morality.
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Did you get that quote from somebody who had just been listening to you talk? And then misunderstood and thought they meant the other person?
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Why do you feel uncomfortable with criticizing a mass murdering war criminal?
The dude didn’t hate communism for their values but for belonging to the enemy. He was a Jew but hated his own people (he said he’d gave been an antisemite if he wasn’t born a Jew, with a motivation as asinine as “they must have been doing something wrong to be persecuted for 2000 years”, as if he didn’t know what propaganda was), including ignoring executions of Jews in USSR.
He personally ordered THOUSANDS of bombings in Cambodia and in many many other countries, was responsible for multiple coups and replacing democratic leaders with dictators (this is not something you do if you genuinely belive in democracy over communism), and was an overall monster.
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So you’re not able to find information about the bombings he personally approved of?
Blind eye? He INSTIGATED the war crimes, intentionally, because he wanted them to happen
https://forward.com/culture/470300/kissinger-at-100-if-it-were-not-for-the-accident-of-my-birth-i-would-be/
You’re pretending it doesn’t require rebuttal because you think big lie rhetorics works with people who know this shit better than you do
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/149898 - “Kissinger Called Jews ‘Self-Serving,’ ‘Bastards’”
You’re ironically engaging in more group think than the rest of us by going all in on contrarianism
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Your comment makes me able to guess your country of origin up to perfect accuracy! Impressive!
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Moronstan.
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We know very well what he did in his career which is why we hate him.