I mean, what they did would be illegal regardless of Dobbs and in the entire EU. This isn’t the case to prove that point, which is why it very quickly faded after the initial run of misleading headlines when it happened. I’m absolutely pro choice but the woman and her daughter are not poster children for victims of the pro life movement. They committed actual crimes and she put her daughter in actual danger. They then openly admitted to police that they discussed it on an unencrypted and available messaging system which resulted in a valid warrant issued by a judge with due process.
This just plain isn’t a smoking gun against anti abortionists or Meta. The more you pretend it is the more it ruins your credibility to anyone that actually reads the details of the case.
Maybe if there were less hurdles to get an abortion in Nebraska the mother wouldn’t have done what she did? Not excusing her behavior but to dismiss this the way you did seems unfair.
Here were the restrictions in place in Nebraska when this happened.
In Nebraska, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of June 28, 2022:
A patient must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the patient from having an abortion, and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided.
Private insurance policies cover abortion only in cases of life endangerment, unless individuals purchase an optional rider at an additional cost.
Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion in cases of life endangerment.
Abortion is covered in insurance policies for public employees only in cases of life endangerment, unless individuals purchase an optional rider at an additional cost.
The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.
The parent of a minor must consent before an abortion is provided.
Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.
An abortion may be performed at 20 or more weeks postfertilization (22 weeks after the last menstrual period) only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised health.
This law is based on the assertion, which is not consistent with scientific evidence and has been rejected by the medical community, that a fetus can feel pain at that point in pregnancy.
The state requires abortion clinics to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant, equipment and staffing.
The use of a safe, effective and commonly used method of second trimester abortion is prohibited.
Abortions using dilation and evacuation are permitted only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised physical health.
While those restrictions are absolute BS and I fully support safe and legal access to abortions, this simply is not the case to make the poster child. It was before Dobbs was decided and well outside the window in even the majority of Blue states and the EU. When it comes to super late term abortions they are the obvious boogeyman that the anti abortion crowd uses to justify their draconian restrictions. This is one of the most clear cut examples of the scenarios that generally don’t happen. During the debates Buttigieg put it perfectly on his response to late term abortions. https://www.vox.com/2019/5/19/18631854/pete-buttigieg-fox-news-town-hall
This is literally the one in 10 million example that breaks the mold. She wasn’t actively trying and stopped by road blocks, she didn’t just miss the cutoff due to logistics. This is literally the only tangible example of the actual boogeyman argument that I’ve come across. It was pre-Dobbs, they broke many laws beyond just the timing of the abortion and Meta was responding to a valid subpoena after the mother and daughter forgot about “shut the fuck up friday.” Reposting this a year later 4 times a day on 3 different Lemmy communities for a week to prove your ultra lib credentials isn’t beneficial to the cause, women’s rights or the growth of Lemmy.
I mean, what they did would be illegal regardless of Dobbs and in the entire EU. This isn’t the case to prove that point, which is why it very quickly faded after the initial run of misleading headlines when it happened. I’m absolutely pro choice but the woman and her daughter are not poster children for victims of the pro life movement. They committed actual crimes and she put her daughter in actual danger. They then openly admitted to police that they discussed it on an unencrypted and available messaging system which resulted in a valid warrant issued by a judge with due process.
This just plain isn’t a smoking gun against anti abortionists or Meta. The more you pretend it is the more it ruins your credibility to anyone that actually reads the details of the case.
Maybe if there were less hurdles to get an abortion in Nebraska the mother wouldn’t have done what she did? Not excusing her behavior but to dismiss this the way you did seems unfair.
Here were the restrictions in place in Nebraska when this happened.
In Nebraska, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of June 28, 2022:
A patient must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage the patient from having an abortion, and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided.
Private insurance policies cover abortion only in cases of life endangerment, unless individuals purchase an optional rider at an additional cost. Health plans offered in the state’s health exchange under the Affordable Care Act can only cover abortion in cases of life endangerment.
Abortion is covered in insurance policies for public employees only in cases of life endangerment, unless individuals purchase an optional rider at an additional cost.
The use of telemedicine to administer medication abortion is prohibited.
The parent of a minor must consent before an abortion is provided.
Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.
An abortion may be performed at 20 or more weeks postfertilization (22 weeks after the last menstrual period) only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised health.
This law is based on the assertion, which is not consistent with scientific evidence and has been rejected by the medical community, that a fetus can feel pain at that point in pregnancy.
The state requires abortion clinics to meet unnecessary and burdensome standards related to their physical plant, equipment and staffing.
The use of a safe, effective and commonly used method of second trimester abortion is prohibited.
Abortions using dilation and evacuation are permitted only in cases of life endangerment or severely compromised physical health.
While those restrictions are absolute BS and I fully support safe and legal access to abortions, this simply is not the case to make the poster child. It was before Dobbs was decided and well outside the window in even the majority of Blue states and the EU. When it comes to super late term abortions they are the obvious boogeyman that the anti abortion crowd uses to justify their draconian restrictions. This is one of the most clear cut examples of the scenarios that generally don’t happen. During the debates Buttigieg put it perfectly on his response to late term abortions. https://www.vox.com/2019/5/19/18631854/pete-buttigieg-fox-news-town-hall
This is literally the one in 10 million example that breaks the mold. She wasn’t actively trying and stopped by road blocks, she didn’t just miss the cutoff due to logistics. This is literally the only tangible example of the actual boogeyman argument that I’ve come across. It was pre-Dobbs, they broke many laws beyond just the timing of the abortion and Meta was responding to a valid subpoena after the mother and daughter forgot about “shut the fuck up friday.” Reposting this a year later 4 times a day on 3 different Lemmy communities for a week to prove your ultra lib credentials isn’t beneficial to the cause, women’s rights or the growth of Lemmy.