• stormio@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    “Compact powerhouse” caught my attention. Unfortunately, “compact” is a 6.36 inch screen.

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      9 months ago

      You need to talk about the overall phone size, not just the screen size.

      In the real world, this phone is barely bigger than a Galaxy S5, yet the screen is a full 1.3 inches larger due to the much much smaller bezels.

      In 2024, that’s definitely compact. We’re not going back to iPhone 3GS dimensions.

      That said, I’d still never buy a Xiaomi product, no matter how good the reviews are.

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        9 months ago

        It’s still significantly bigger than the zenfone 10 or the iPhone and screen size matters more to some of us than the overall size.

        Call it a not huge phone or something. Compact should mean something.

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          9 months ago

          It’s still significantly bigger than the zenfone 10 or the iPhone

          Umm… sorry for bringing facts into the discussion but…

          Xiaomi 14: 153mm x 71mm (10,863mm² frontal area)

          iPhone 15: 148mm x 72mm (10,656mm² frontal area)

          Zenphone 10: 147mm x 68mm (9,996mm² frontal area)

          It’s less than 2% larger than an iPhone, which you purport to be compact. Is 2% larger really “significantly bigger” to you?

          It’s about the same as a 10 year old flagship phone. Stop looking at screen sizes and thinking “wow this phone must be HUGE!”

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            9 months ago

            6mm taller is a lot when you’re looking for a small phone, especially using one handed. 3mm is a lot for width too. Now compare it to a true compact like the iPhone mini or Sony compact series and it’s huge. Personally I would not call any of these compact, and if you are going to include a phone with a 6.3" screen, then it loses all meaning.

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              9 months ago

              Mate come on you’re moving the goalposts now. First an iPhone is compact now it’s not? Make your mind up!

              The iPhone mini is long gone and the Xperia compact series is long gone too. Nobody bought them.

              And no, the 6.3" screen doesn’t make it lose meaning. If the bezels shrink and the screen grows but the phone is the same size… then the phone is the same size.

              My laptop, thanks to modern slim bezels, has a 14.something inch screen in a space that traditionally would’ve had a 13 inch screen.

              Is it less compact because the screen is larger? Your argument is that the laptop has grown, despite the dimensions staying the same.

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                9 months ago

                Bezels stopped mattering a long time ago. The overall height of this phone is 6mm taller than the zenfone and 5mm taller than the iPhone.

                You’re saying if ford discontinued all models except for the F350, we could call the short box version a compact truck.

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                  9 months ago

                  It’s 2% larger than a phone you happily called compact.

                  Stop moving goalposts.

                  Bezels do matter. Their shrinking has allowed for large screens on phones without increasing the size. Comparing compactness of phones by their screen size rather than actual size is misguided.

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        9 months ago

        Custom roms for them absolutely slap. Posting this from a still perfectly functional mi9 with Android 14.

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        9 months ago

        For some of us, 6.3in screen with 100% screen to body ratio is still too large.

        At 100% Id want 5.0in.
        In today’s phone standards 4.5-4.8in seems reasonable.

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          9 months ago

          So not a phone from 10 years ago, one from earlier.

          Similar in size to a Nokia 3310 from 2000? H: 113, W: 48 therefore diagonal size is 123mm or 4.8/4.9 inches.

          To me it seems like there’d be a severe usability penalty there, but if that’s what you want.

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            9 months ago

            I was thinking the traditional 16:10 form factor. Essentially, a touch screen phone narrow enought that you could hold without the “pinky shelf” grip.
            But also short enough that you can reach all four corners of the screen without adjusting your grip.

            The iPod touches achieved this with their form factor.

            There was an experimental phone some time between Android 2.3 and 4.4 that had it’s entire UI designed around the thumbs mobility.
            It was drowned out under Android and iOS’s popularity, but I insist that they had the right idea.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, unfortunately we are way past 6 inches. It’s unlikely to make a return.

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      9 months ago

      I think I’ve heard someone call a 6.7 screen compact. Times are crazy