It’s pretty typical tankie behavior that we’re seeing.
When you say it’s bad that Stalin implemented genocidal policies such as against the Krim Tartars, Kalmykks and other ethnic groups, they come back with wHaT aBoUt aMeRiCa.
They know that both things can be bad, but they have similar incentives to right-fascists. That is to say they’re liars.
Yeah I don’t care if they want to call it genocide or not, I honestly don’t… And I don’t care for calling them fascists either, it’s just childish drama stuff to me… Just don’t twist other people’s words and pretend that a certain country or person is perfect…
Right but can we maybe not getting hung up on specific words and definitions? I really don’t want endless fights over what to label stuff, I would rather see discussions about whether or not China should be doing what they do…
It’s a lot easier to dismiss and deflect a hard to define and relatively flexible word such as genocide, but it’s a lot harder to actually defend China’s actions…
Notice how amnesty international never mentiond the word “genocide”? Instead, they stick to what they can prove without a doubt: Chinas mass internment, mass survilance, etc.
Don’t get me wrong, Chinas actions are horrible. The label genocide is probably fair. But I hate when appologists are able to dodge an uncomfortable discussion because the discussion gets stuck at arguing whether we should call it “crimes against humanity”, “systemic repression of a people” or “genocide”…
When you clap like a seal because the latest round of corporate flacks insist AES states are full of baby eating monsters, you end up endorsing the Kosovo War, the Iraq War, the Vietnam War, and the Korean War all over again.
“China killed all the Uighurs” is just this generation’s “Saddam murdered babies in their incubators” and “Those Nicaraguan nuns had it coming” of the 21st century.
No, it wasn’t fine, that’s kinda the point… It isn’t fine when the west does it, it’s not fine when others do it too…
It’s pretty typical tankie behavior that we’re seeing.
When you say it’s bad that Stalin implemented genocidal policies such as against the Krim Tartars, Kalmykks and other ethnic groups, they come back with wHaT aBoUt aMeRiCa.
They know that both things can be bad, but they have similar incentives to right-fascists. That is to say they’re liars.
Yeah I don’t care if they want to call it genocide or not, I honestly don’t… And I don’t care for calling them fascists either, it’s just childish drama stuff to me… Just don’t twist other people’s words and pretend that a certain country or person is perfect…
Hey, that’s kinda fucked, since genocide is one of the worst things that can happen and should be condemned in the strongest possible terms.
Nothing Childish about condemning genocidal states like China.
Right but can we maybe not getting hung up on specific words and definitions? I really don’t want endless fights over what to label stuff, I would rather see discussions about whether or not China should be doing what they do…
It’s a lot easier to dismiss and deflect a hard to define and relatively flexible word such as genocide, but it’s a lot harder to actually defend China’s actions…
Notice how amnesty international never mentiond the word “genocide”? Instead, they stick to what they can prove without a doubt: Chinas mass internment, mass survilance, etc.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconian-repression-of-muslims-in-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/
Don’t get me wrong, Chinas actions are horrible. The label genocide is probably fair. But I hate when appologists are able to dodge an uncomfortable discussion because the discussion gets stuck at arguing whether we should call it “crimes against humanity”, “systemic repression of a people” or “genocide”…
When you clap like a seal because the latest round of corporate flacks insist AES states are full of baby eating monsters, you end up endorsing the Kosovo War, the Iraq War, the Vietnam War, and the Korean War all over again.
“China killed all the Uighurs” is just this generation’s “Saddam murdered babies in their incubators” and “Those Nicaraguan nuns had it coming” of the 21st century.