brutal. He deserved to hear the truth. doubt he believed though
At this point, it’s probably a defense mechanism. Can you imagine the kind of soul crushing realization it would be to accept that you’re responsible for your spouse’s death because you got way too deep into shit posting on Facebook? It’s way, way more comfortable to displace that blame and rationalize it away.
I sort of feel like the exceedingly casual posting on Facebook about this very world-wrenching moment in his life is proof enough for me that he’s made a few horcruxes in his time and has a maimed soul.
If I was in his shoes, those 3 words would be on loop in my head, and I’d be curled up in a foetal position bawling, insensate, forever. Like the end of a particularly disturbing Black Mirror ep.
Yeah, but don’t you think he still, even if it is just subconsciously, believes it up to a degree?
It must be gnawing at him.
Yeah, he probably does. In between the space of consciousness and unconsciousness, when the frontal lobe can’t run defense anymore and the limbic system starts to lose its weighted clothing, it probably sneaks through. Probably right before he goes to sleep, or in his dreams, or when he’s spacing out on something, it sneaks up on him like the cat in the hat with a bat.
He is posting this because he STILL thinks he’s right and she was wrong to blame him
Oh holy fuck… oh holy fuck…
Yep. I just found this in my Facebook memories and this one was baaaaaad.
What’s the context?
Edit: I didn’t know what any of this was in reference to. I wasn’t trying to ask for context in order to defend anyone. Apologies.
Is the dude still an antivaxxer or was there a redemption arc? I feel like we need some before and after posts.
He just makes a lot of derogatory comments about women now, and just how Commie Pinko in Chief Joe Biden is ruining all the things. He shut up about COVID
So…he didn’t really learn anything from one of the darkest things that could possibly happen to a person. How…sad.
The problem is that most conservatives are simply incapable of introspection. Everything they do in life is in an effort to not be wrong about anything.
Nah bro, you don’t come back from that. The only way to cope with that level of mental trauma is to convince yourself you’re even more right.
I hope life insurance didnt pay his claim
Fuck man, I read the title but still, seeing it spelled out, fuck. That’s some heavy shit.
Deserved too. I blame the dipshit that was president for it though. All he had to do was say to wear a mask and get vaccinated and so many lives would have been saved. The whole fighting over it would never have happened. It’s really pathetic, and these mouthbreathers are trying to vote his dumbass back in.
If I recall correctly Trump did originally, but back-peddled the moment he faced the slightest push-back from his mouth-breathing constituency.
The weak man’s idea of a strongman, indeed.
I’m probably wrong, but I thought it went the other way? That he started out calling it no big deal, then shifted to mask mandates and vaccines are communism, then the whole ivermectin and injecting bleach thing, and then when he got caught getting vaccinated, he tried to backpedal and tell people to get vaccinated, but he immediately went back to calling it a hoax and whatever else when he got even a tiny bit of outrage from his base.
He was always on board with the vaccines until he got booed at an event for promoting the vaccines. Then he became, outwardly, pro-vaccine (but more quietly), and anti-mandate.
He was always anti-mask. And he tried to downplay Covid in general because he didn’t want the Dow Jones Industrial Average to drop.
How did he force her to not get vaccinated? She’s a grown ass woman
By bombarding her with antivaxxer propaganda and threatening her with divorce if she got it sadly.
Grown or not, some people are very much under their spouse’s control because of money and other vulnerability.
Sure, but that kind of thing mostly refers to housing and income. It would be trivial to get vaccinated without telling your spouse or anyone else who wants to make a big deal out of it. This lady made the bet that appeasing her husband was more important than getting vaccinated and she lost that bet. Her husband certainly bears a large portion of the blame for creating the situation she found herself in but she could have easily found her way out of it without causing a fuss. She chose not to.
I don’t think you’ve been in a relationship like what I’m talking about, and I’m glad for you. Emotional abuse is terrifying. I live it and it’s absolutely killing me and because of money I can do nothing different.
I’m sure it is a very unpleasant situation to be in. That doesn’t change the fact that getting vaccinated is simple, cheap, and as anonymous as you would like it to be.
Is it? Did she have her own transportation? Was she able to leave the house without her husband’s knowledge, or without him keeping tabs on her?
What you’re doing is victim blaming at its finest. Just stop.
You can call it whatever you like but it won’t make what I’m saying any less true. Getting vaccinated is intentionally easy to do. Laws prohibit doctors and any organization with access from sharing medical records. A shitty spouse has less control over this choice than the vast majority of choices in your life.
I’m sending the message to anyone reading this that it is possible to get vaccinated even if there are people in your life who don’t want you to do that. What are you doing besides telling people it’s important to get vaccinated unless it’s a bit more difficult than it should be? Who does that help? Everyone already knows that abusive spouses are dicks. That fact doesn’t need any more attention.
It’s not a universal truth that you can just choose to get a vaccination without making an appointment or needing to involve insurance etc.
In a hypothetical extreme scenario, imagine having to weigh the risks between getting the vaccine that will potentially save your life and unexpectedly getting an appointment reminder text/email or follow-up contact that alerts the controlling partner and they potentially end your life for the “transgression.”
The vaccine being “cheap” is also not universal and if you aren’t allowed personal discretionary spending anything >$0 isn’t cheap enough.
I really like how people try to censor names and fail to do so. If you really want something like that to be irreversible put a fucking black rectangle instead.
Ah but that’s hard to do on a phone and you know nobody uses computers anymore. Just scribble over it with your finger, like a toddler in Kindergarten. Good enough!
If it was posted publicly, then you can just search for it. The globe icon tells you that the post is public.
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If it makes you feel better, it probably never happened.
It did happen. And he’s still free, was posting yesterday.
what would you arrest him for exactly?
Even if it did, his wife isn’t there to say he stopped her in a legal fashion. Like she is a grown adult that made a horrible decision to support her husband. But I don’t think it’s a legal manslaughter or something along those lines.
I do however feel it’s morally fucked up.
he didnt force anybody, being stupid is not a crime
How did he force her to not get vaxxed?
Domestic abuse isn’t just physical violence, it can also include manipulation, coercion, and other forms of control.
oh please lets not pretend she was probably just as nuts
OP has said elsewhere in the thread that they knew this couple at the time and she did not have a meaningful say in the situation. She was threatened with divorce if she had gotten the vaccine. For a lot of women, their economic situations are such that a sudden divorce would likely lead to poverty and homelessness as well as loss of meaningful support for any of their children.
eh, she had a way out. i dont have a lot of sympathy
Then you don’t have a very good understanding of what domestic abuse situations are actually like. I hope that you can expand your understanding through empathetic learning and that you don’t have to learn via personal or close vicarious experience.
Profile pic checks out
I miss the old /r/hermancainaward before they started blocking out people’s faces. They all pretty much looked just like this dude, but it made all the posts much more real seeing the people that posted them.
Make a lemmy version?
Nah, I feel like the moment has past
It has to be true because it’s on Facebook!
No antivaxxer is going to admit this in the open to anyone.
You’re giving them waaaay too much credit
You’d be surprised how many abusers will tell on themselves thinking they are sharing a story about how something unfair was said to them. Then they give you the backstory as they relay it to a friend where they think it’s a safe space. A lot of assholes will still staunchly think they are in the right. Sadly a lot of their friends will join in on a toxic journey with them too. YouTube comments are pretty rife with these cliques.
Yup. I used to follow a YouTube channel run by a couple, then they had a harsh breakup and she left the channel. Some time later she comes forward with allegations of abuse against him, and I’m like “okay but this is just her side of the story, what if it’s all bullshit?”.
Then he addressed the allegations. The way he addressed them, to me, was exposing himself FAR more than anything she said. It was like watching a movie villain monologue. Really scary how skewed those people’s perceptions are.
I’m 90% sure I was able to find the correct person the post belongs to. They’re listed as widowed. They live in/are from areas that you would stereotypically expect a person to be taking horse dewormer instead of getting vaccinated. His public comments are full of typical boomer humor memes, misogynistic gems like (copied right from his page) “ Just heard an interesting fact….25% of women are being treated for mental illness….that means 75% are running around untreated 🤣🤣🤣”, guns, and more gems like this: E: image didn’t upload. It was a side-by-side image of a muzzled dog and a woman wearing a large covid mask titled “obedience training”.
And then everyone clapped…
