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    3 months ago

    From the trailer, I don’t get the impression that they’re trying to come back from it - rather, they’re leaning in to it.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, exactly. So they’re either playing the redemption angle (which I don’t buy) or they’re just going “Massacres! They’re wholesome!” (which is plain terrible and I don’t see Yeoh going for it).

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        3 months ago

        I’ve said elsewhere in the thread that I think there’s a difference between redemption and atonement - I had the impression from the season 3 two-parter that they’d be taking the latter route with Georgiou. I think that could be really interesting, should they go in that direction.

        This teaser really didn’t provide any information as to whether they will, though.

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          3 months ago

          I missed that comment, but I still think it’s a matter of semantics between atonement and redemption. In Disco the rest of the characters just shrugged it off with a “she was a mass murderer, but she was our mass murderer”, and I find it rather disturbing that the franchise runners seem to do the same.

          Like I said, Michelle Yeoh is a treasure, but the character of mirror Georgiou has been dialed up to maximum evil yet she’s played for comic relief?

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            3 months ago

            To me, “redemption” implies forgiveness, while “atonement” implies reparation or sacrifice, without actual forgiveness being in the equation. I think it’s an interesting notion, if they can pull it off.

            Georgiou has great potential to be a sort of nature/nurture story.