So I recently got an excuse rant about my opinions on federated tech. I think it’s pretty much the best we can hope for in terms of liberating tech, with very few niches where fully distributed tech is preferable.

Needing a server places users under the power of the server administrator. Why do we bother? "No gods, no masters, no admins!’ I hear you shout. Well, there’s a couple reasons…

Maybe using software is just an intrinsically centralized activity. One or a few people design and code it, and an unlimited number of people can digitally replicate and use it. Sure, it may be free software that everyone can inspect and modify… but how many people will really bother? (Nevermind that most people don’t even have the skills necessary.)

Okay, so we always kind of rely on a central-ish dev team when we use tech. Why rely on admins on top of that? I believe the vast vast majority of people doesn’t have the skills and time to operate a truly independent node of a fully distributed tech. Let’s take Jami as an example:

“With the default name server (ns.jami.net), the usernames are registered on an Ethereum blockchain.”

So a feature of Jami is (for most users) implemented as a centralized service. Yikes. You could build and run your own name server (with less embarrassing tech choices hopefully), but who will really bother?

But say you bothered, wouldn’t it be nice if your friends could use that name server too, and gain a little independence? That sounds a lot like decentralized/federated tech.

Keeping a decent service online is a pain in the butt. Installing SW updates, managing backups, paying for hardware and name services… nevermind just the general bothering to understand all that mess. And moderation, don’t forget moderation. I’m saying it’s not for everyone (and we should appreciate the fuck out of [local admin]).

I believe that servers and admins are our best bet for actual non-centralized tech. A tech-literate person tending a service for a small- to medium-size community is much more feasible than every person running their independent node (which will probably still depend on something centralized).

And maybe that’s just the way we bring good ol’ division of labour to the Internet. You have your shoemaker, your baker, your social media admin. A respectable and useful position in society. And they lived happily ever after.

  • Mii@awful.systemsEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Fair points, I guess. When I speak of advertising, I meant specifically that “ad-tech-driven surveillance economy”, not the ability to post (or spam) your product down any given channel. I should have said targeted advertising specifically.

    People who remember Usenet fondly either only hung out in the good parts (heavily moderated technical newsgroups) or are perfectly fine with defining online discourse as being text-only and gated by access.

    I guess I am in that bubble, yes. I remember Usenet mostly as being rather heavily moderated as I mostly stayed away from the scary parts of the alt. hierarchy (esp. alt.binaries), and most of my interactions were with creative communities in the form of writing and fan-fiction on rec, as well as what I perceived as early safe spaces for discussions of LGBTQ issues on soc (especially SSYGLB). There were also some groups in my native language that catered to both of these interests in some of the language hierarchies outside of the Big 8.

    But I suppose it’s the same romanticized idea that Gemini follows and only appeals to me because I have somewhat positive memories. Idk, I guess I’m just kinda fed up with the modern internet, especially because I also see a lot of that ad-tech crap at work which doesn’t leave me with a lot of hope that it won’t get worse.