• Tiltinyall@beehaw.org
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    3 months ago

    Democratic Socialism is alive and well in many countries without any U.S. intervention. You must be referring to the fascist kind.

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          So every AES state is also Democratic Socialist too.

          Or do you mean Socialism established through liberal reform? That’s very rare, only really established in countries like Chile under Allende, before the US supported a coup to overthrow him.

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            That’s underselling it. Before he was even president, the CIA kidnapped and killed the Commander in Chief of the Chilean army for refusing to send the army during his inauguration. There was political and economical warfare for fear of a “functioning socialist government” in South America. According to Nixon “the choice of government by the Chileans was unacceptable”.

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      3 months ago

      Ah, yes, the United States famously only interferes in fascist countries and not for benefit of plutocrats.

      Also, which demsoc countries are you talking about where the means of production are controlled by the working class?

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        3 months ago

        What kind of argument is that? You’ve literally reiterated the spirit of this meme and directed it towards the U.S. The question was name a country that has instituted communisim successfully. As for part 2, you live in a fantasy that worker controlled production can exist without any administration or bureaucracy, ie. centralization. This right here is what true socialism has failed at repeatedly. Name one successful example.

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            Oh, here come the uppity remarks, I am a dual citizen of a country with a socialist party, thanks for the down-the-nose leer in my direction without providing any education.

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              Is that socialist party in power? Is it actually socialist, or does it just call itself that? Because a lot of European “socialist” parties aren’t; most are liberal social welfare parties at best.