• pyre@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    first of all, if you didn’t watch it stfu and move on why are you commenting

    second of all that’s not whataboutism, it’s context. the question isn’t who deserves criticism, it’s about what is specifically different about this particular piece or media that made it a target for such immense hate. your “harmful” bs is just cover. harmful media doesn’t get this hate. even more harmful ones. and there are tons.

    i hated twilight too btw. one of the rare movies i couldn’t sit through, and quit halfway. i usually watch even bad movies to the end.

    but that doesn’t explain the cultural phenomenon that hating it became.

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      11 days ago

      it’s about what is specifically different about this particular piece or media that made it a target for such immense hate

      First of all, the vast majority was ridicule rather than “hate”. Your histrionics aren’t helpful.

      Second of all, it invited special amounts of scorn and ridicule for being extraordinarily bad and for its popularity giving it tremendous reach to cause tremendous amounts of both annoyance and real harm. Just like Donald Trump gets more scorn and ridicule than your average awful county level Republican who’s not everywhere all the time.

      your “harmful” bs is just cover.

      Nope, it’s accurate, though it was far more infamous for being bad than for being harmful. Hence the criticism being much more ridicule than serious criticism.

      harmful media doesn’t get this hate. even more harmful ones. and there are tons.

      Again, textbook whataboutism. The treatment of other harmful nonsense doesn’t determine whether or not Twilight deserved the ridicule and criticism it got.

      It ABSOLUTELY did, no matter how many other poorly conceived things received less than they deserved.

      but that doesn’t explain the cultural phenomenon that hating it became

      Say you have no idea how memes and culture in general works without saying it 🙄

      The worse you are and the more pervasive you are, the bigger the target you become. Being a Donald Trump sized culture phenomenon that was almost halfway as toxic and unavoidable, Twilight deservedly got almost half as much scorn and derision in its time.

      first of all, if you didn’t watch it stfu and move on why are you commenting

      I’m not commenting on the content of the video. I’m commenting on why I’m not wasting 19 minutes of my undivided attention on a defense of Meyer and her harmful amateur level garbage.

      If you still aren’t getting that, just like you’re still not getting what whataboutism is, maybe it’s YOU who should stfu and move on.