Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

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    From an article about a boutique brand that sells books to rich people:

    Assouline has made its name publishing tomes that sell for $1,000 or more.

    Oh, so they publish textbooks.

    ā€œThey represent stealth wealth, intended to tell you what your hosts are about and to provide visual evidence: that the owners are people of wealth, education and taste.ā€

    šŸŽ¶ Please allow me to introduce myself šŸŽ¶

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        ā€œā€¦37%ā€¦ That means nearly one in fourā€¦ā€

        Eh, no it doesnā€™t, it means nearly two in five. Which is worse.

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      So youā€™re saying that theyā€™ve got books worth at least a grand which their owners are literally using to flaunt their wealth?

      Iā€™m legally obligated to say stealing is legally and morally wrong buuuuuuuut

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        @BlueMonday1984 Betcha the authors arenā€™t getting paid industry-normal royalties (10-15% of net receipts) on those Veblen goods ā€¦

        (A few of my novels have been sold as limited-run signed first editions. Typically for 50%-100% more than the normal hardcover price, so maybe 3-5% as much as this nonsense. Cost of goods for a leatherbound, gilt-trimmed luxury edition is maybe $5-10, plus 10% of the cover price for the author. So someone in the middle is making serious bank.)

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        @froztbyte Your term of art in economics to describe this shitbaggery is ā€œVeblen goodsā€: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

        ā€œa type of luxury goodā€¦ for which the demand increases as the price increases, in apparent contradiction of the law of demand, resulting in an upward-sloping demand curve. The higher prices of Veblen goods may make them desirable as a status symbol in the practices of conspicuous consumption and conspicuous leisure.ā€

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            If there is an elevator in the apartment, the driver has to take the stairs, contractually. Of course people who order that donā€™t live in high rise apartments where the driver can reach the door, so everybody wins.

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    just heard a podcast ad for amazon prime saying it causes ā€œinvoluntary deal squealsā€ followed by a categorization of different kinds of customer grunts and squeals according to product. not making this up

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        I swear I keep seeing Amazon ads in this same icky dehumanizing ā€œcuteā€ style, like some of the annoyance-based ads I vaguely remember from when I still had cable TV. is this just what ads become every time a corporation decides you have no other choice? (yes, almost every time)

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    one of OpenAIā€™s cofounders wrote some thoroughly unhinged shit about the companyā€™s recent departures

    Thank you, guys, for being my team and my co-workers. With each of you, I have collected cool memories ā€” with Barret, when we had a fierce conflict about compute for what later became o1; with Bob, when he reprimanded me for doing a jacuzzi with a coworker; and with Mira, who witnessed my engagement.

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      I am in awe of the sheer number of GPUsā€¦ whose lives ChatGPT has changed.

      If it was just this one line, this would be in the top 10 funniest things ever written around genAI. Too bad the rest of the rambling insanity ruins it.

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      I canā€™t be the only one reading that super passive aggressively right? ā€œThank you Barret, whom I hated. Bob, for ruining my hot Jacuzzi date. And Mira, for existing.ā€

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      lmao this is weird as fuck, reminds me of the bullshit Lex Fridman comes up with, I can totally imagine him saying things like this

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    I am sure this is totally not sketchy in the slightest and the people behind it have no nefarious agenda whatsoever.

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      fuck thatā€™s gross

      whereā€™d you find/run across that? canā€™t tell if itā€™s a normal ad or some gig-site thing or what

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        Saw it posted on Reddit. Itā€™s apparently from clickworker.com which is a weird-ass website by itself at first glance, with great pitches like this:

        People are happier if they are more financially independent. We can help you achieve this.

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      Ah yes the advertisement which causes T&S people (who have seen some things) to go on long rants on why you should never put pictures of your kids online publically.

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    Turns out trump really does understand cryptocurrency perfectly. Whoā€™d have thought? Some folk seems surprisingly unhappy about this, though.

    Maybe weā€™ll pay off the $35 trillion US debt in Crypto. Iā€™ll write on a little piece of paper ā€˜$35T crypto we have no debt.ā€™ Thatā€™s what I like.

    https://xcancel.com/mattyglesias/status/1838331688931266694

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      The question (which doesnā€™t matter) now is, does he really understand crypto? Or did he get at the right conclusion because he thinks that everybody else, like him, is just scamming all the time?

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        Given the kinds of crowds he hangs out with (i.e. mostly other rich people and political elite) is that not an understandable conclusion?

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      anything that makes yglesias have a bad day is generally a good thing

      but it sounds like the orange man understands the crypto market perfectly: the numbers are all made up and everyoneā€™s lying

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        (at least I think itā€™s that one? one of themā€™s quite the bootlicker. Iā€™m bad at names tho)

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      I mean there are definitely some brain rotted crypto bros who would buy shares at face value because itā€™s totally gonna go to the moon guys

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    A lobsters states the following in regard to LLMs being used in medical diagnoses:

    If you have very unusual symptoms, for example, thereā€™s a higher chance that the LLM will determine that they are outside of the probability space allowed and replace them with something more common.

    Another one opines:

    Donā€™t humans and in particular doctors do precisely that? This may be anecdotal, but I know countless stories of people being misdiagnosed because doctors just assumed the cause to be the most common thing they diagnose. It is not obvious to me that LLMs exhibit this particular misjudgement more than humans. In fact, it is likely that LLMs know rare diseases and symptoms much better than human doctors. LLMs also have way more time to listen and think.

    <Babbage about UK parlaimentarians.gif>

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      nothing hits worse than an able-bodied techbro imagining what medical care must be like for someone who needs it. here, let me save you from the possibility of misdiagnosis by building and mandating the use of the misdiagnosis machine

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      Also please fill in the obligatory rant about how LLMs donā€™t actually know any diseases or symptoms. Like, if your training data was collected before 2020 you wouldnā€™t have a single COVID case, but if you started collecting in 2020 youā€™d have a system that spat out COVID to a disproportionately large fraction of respiratory symptoms (and probably several tummy aches and broken arms too, just for good measure).

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    Somehow I managed to mention the wordpress lawsuit on last weekā€™s thread instead of this one, so letā€™s try again.

    Matt Mullenweg, the wordpress(.)com guy and current owner of tumblr, tried to shakedown competing blog product WP engine (which builds on the same open source software that his company does) for 8% of their revenue (https://goblin.band/notes/9yjrc2logimd1tr3 h/t to froztbyte who was also on the old thread for some mysterious reason) or heā€™d say mean things about them at a conference where they were one of the sponsors. And they didnā€™t pay up, so he compared them to cancer.

    And now theyā€™re suing him.

    https://notes.ghed.in/posts/2024/matt-mullenweg-wp-engine-debacle/

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    a twitter thread by sv ceo where comment section wants to do some recreational union busting, political assassinations and automating away longshoremen (lmao) over checks notes black friday bringing slightly less profit to mass retailers. to which i say, fuck your black friday then

    and he says that itā€™ll affect elections? specifically in ā€œdonā€™t do anything visible in interest of unions or trump will winā€ kinda way? what kinda madhouse is this americans explain https://xcancel.com/typesfast/status/1836498432510562788#m

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      fuck your black friday then

      the institutionalisation of it is/was also just fucking nuts

      and then in recent years itā€™s slowly been creeping out into other countries too, with other vendors in other places aping ā€œblack friday dealsā€

      I have no mouth and I must scream

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      This was the woman who took over during Sam Altmanā€™s temporary removal as CEO, which weā€™re pretty sure happened because the AI doom cultists werenā€™t satisfied that Altman was enough of an AI doom cultist.

      Yudkowsky was solidly in favor of her ascension. I take no joy in saying this as someone who wants this AI nonsense to stop soon, but OpenAI is probably better off financially with fewer AI doom cultists in high positions.

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      Do you think they still say all that bullshit even when theyā€™re not screenshooting it for twitter? Probably, right