• recursive_recursion they/them@lemmy.ca
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    I’m not a fan of this kind of media as it’s still about kicking others down rather than raising people up which is really unfortunate as we’ve already got plenty of corporations already doing this to the majority of people

    If the essence of this comic is about critisizing the fragility of ego in men, then wouldn’t a better solution be to encourage men’s ability to self-reflect and learn empathetic communication (Non-Violent-Communication)?

    Personally I’m tired of these firestarter situations that pits people against each other as it’s all so needlessly tragic. As someone with conservative family members this is just all too familiar unfortunately and I hate it as it’s not useful or enjoyable for anyone.

    Like does the state of humanity’s current shitty position really change by fighting each other? Personally I don’t think so. Unless we’re in a situation where civil disobedience is required to fight opression from the top, I see these situations as unhelpful and toxic for both feminists and men.

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      Criticism plays a valuable role, in my opinion, to self-improvement. If the reader feels attacked, then deeper introspection is needed. ‘do I treat women like this?’ and ‘why would someone make this comic?’ should be some of the first questions asked.

      It’s pretty clear that the situation in the comic happens because someone went out of their way to draw it.

      Criticism is a prompt for people or society to self-evaluate. It’s a point towards an ongoing problem. It’s meant to make us feel uncomfortable. Where is the impetus for change if we feel comfortable?

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        If the reader feels attacked

        Non-violent criticism can still be done by addressing the point/statement rather than attacking the person. I don’t understand how gender is involved with fragile egos as it can be a universal problem.

        As a feminist I have to say media such as this comic hurts the movement as it makes it harder for us to garner support from people of all backgrounds. Not all women sterotype men, and not all men sterotype women. The best of both is possible, but like a scientist you have to be willing to find the truth.

        I find this similiar to how some:

        • anti-oil activists cause harm onto all people (such as causing traffic problems by sitting on roads) rather than protesting against oil companies directly.
        • schools create penalties for the entire class instead of singling out and isolating the bully.
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          Nothing in this particular comic is attacking an individual though. In fact, it’s painting with too broad of a brush (as you point out), because sadly, this issue is relatively widespread. Fragile egos are most certainly a universal problem, and women are not without fault. Some of the most abhorrent people I’ve met have been women. That doesn’t change the fact that gender norms for men promote fragile egos. Messaging of "you must compete, you’re only as good as what you can provide to your family, you should never be weak is ubiquitous. When these things are challenged, or we don’t meet these societal expectations, things tend to go poorly.

          Men need to work on supporting each other, being comfortable not aligning with societal expectations, understanding that it’s ok to be weak/vulnerable, and realizing that their value is existential (like all humans) and not tied to production, or some other arbitrary metric.