• blazera@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Alright this is gettin a bit much, Bernie endorsed all of this shit. The change he’s talking about was on the ballot and he was pushing the conservative coddling moderate.

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      He was trying to do everything he could to prevent Trump. That meant holding his tongue so as not to encourage people against strategic voting. It’s a very dumb system we have, but it’s not Bernie’s fault we’re in it.

      Now that the general is over, he can speak his mind again. And probably a hint of getting ahead of the Democratic Party’s inevitable blaming of the left for this loss rather than an ounce of introspection.

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        1 day ago

        Not everything, one thing, the same thing everyone here was trying to do, the same thing the DNC was doing, trying to appeal to conservatives. This is the result, no one wanted conservative democrats, but everyone was holding their nose and pushing for it.

        Now after the fact people are trying to act like they support progressives.

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        18 hours ago

        Endorse an even lesser evil, perhaps even popular good? Why was Kamala the only person in the world that wasnt Trump?

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        23 hours ago

        You know who else trump is worse than? Everyone! Bernie, AOC, jill stein, cornell west, any progressive.

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          23 hours ago

          Yup! But only one person had enough votes to potentially beat trump, which is how the system is designed. I checked last night, and I don’t remember the exact number, but Cornell West received something like 0.67% of the votes in my State. Knowing how the system works, we had one option to prevent a far right government, and it was a less right government. I didn’t design the system, I just live in it.

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            21 hours ago

            No one had enough votes to beat trump, and no one had any votes before everyone decided to hold their nose and half-assed support a candidate no one liked. Yeah, West and Stein and any other potential progressive candidate did poorly, everyone here was actively breaking their knees to knock them out of the race. From daily, hourly propaganda against everything but their policy, to actually banning them from participating in states elections. Everyone here fought more against progressive candidates than they did trump.

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              20 hours ago

              Because they know how these things go. Everyone here is an even smaller percentage of Americans than the number of people who voted for West. You can’t control the way that the average person is going to think and vote. But you can recognize it and try to support the lesser evil, or refuse to recognize it and maybe end up with the greater evil. Sorry, I don’t make the rules, or it would have turned out very differently. Obviously a bunch of people said “I’m not voting for the lesser evil because of XYZ reason”, so here we are with the greater evil.

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                19 hours ago

                They know how these things go? Its past tense now and we both know how things went. Your candidate that you don’t even like lost astoundingly, thats how things went, thats the outcome all of you were pushing for.

                If your candidate loses its voters fault, but if my candidate loses its the candidates fault. Your candidate was a piece of shit nobody liked, with an outcome people like me saw coming.

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                  19 hours ago

                  Simma downa. She wasn’t my candidate and I didn’t vote for her. I’m just conveying the rational. Everyone knew what the only possible choice was to try to stop trump. To be clear, I didn’t vote for her because I live in a very blue state, and knew I could safely make my stand without increasing the odds of a trump win.