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      Let’s remember that economic “liberalism” or neo-“liberalism” are a part of capitalism and thus conservative and authoritative. They’ve just tried to steal the term (and wages lol)

      Liberalism or libertarianism are inherent to leftist values.

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      is right wing, right?

      I honestly don’t know how to answer you. You are mixing now “liberal” in posting topic with “right wing” in comment. “I know” that I said “liberal vs. conservative”, you start going “left wing vs. right wing” and you get an entirely different set of nebulous faiths people have about the meaning of those words and their importance in viewing/interpreting the world that way.

      As a human thinking system, all I see is people constantly hammering it as a be-all-end-all measuring stick. That is left, this is right, that is conservative, this is liberal without any true reasoning behind it as to why measure things this way.

      Which great teachers said you should divide all interpretation of the world into this? I’m from the USA, and the Constitution sure doesn’t mention “left vs. right” or “liberal vs. conservative”, and the Founding Fathers of my nation did in fact educate a division via the Great Seal, front and rear, new world order vs. old world order. The Enlightenment (science) vs. classical mythology (superstition).

      It’s like some runaway meme of cognitive dissonance to have this divisive faith systems. Left vs. Right seems to me to be exactly superstition!

      I am also fully self-aware how popular that this is and that I’m pissing into a wind of extreme acceptance of this division. The map you show to me is an illustration of why it is a overused way of thinking. /rant

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        Left and right do have actual definitions though. Left is anticapitalist. Right is capitalist. Blame the US media for insisting that liberals are left.

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          In the original definition, left was capitalist, right was monarchist. (And normal people weren’t allowed into the parliament)

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          Blame the US media for insisting that liberals are left.

          In the USA, I find one of the most troublesome “media” is the Levant double-imported Bible. And the “USA media” who teaches that Bible without any regard for verse “1 John 3:17”. They actually think that the Bible is “right” and “extreme capitalism”… and avoid teaching “1 John 3:17”.

          The same awful media teachers I have mostly encountered in my 50+ years in the USA also seem to think gender matters above all else and can’t find verse “1 John 4:20” or “Galatians 3:28” in the media book they claim to follow. I question their ability to interpret all media when I can flip to “1 John 3:17” (2000 years to get that book right) as they praise Fox News as “factual news”.

          /// double rant

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            sounds pretty superstitious of you to talk about versions of the Bible ngl

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              The Founding Fathers edited and produced their own Bible in the year 1820.

              There is nothing magical or supernatural about anything on earth, including the imported Bible form the Levant. It’s just a book, and you can teach it correctly. They don’t know how to read or interpret ANYTHING (including The Constitution). They think Fox News is factual.

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                  Take your pick: in public schools they don’t teach The Great Seal to students, social media ignores it in favor of blind faith in “left vs. right” street gang philosophy, universities don’t seem to do it, so-called churches don’t read right, TV news doesn’t, newspapers don’t.

                  I live in a nation where Donald Trump walks around waving a Bible in his hand and not one (supposedly education) person can say “verse Matthew 6:5”. They clearly have no reading comprehension when it comes to any media. They just chase signals of media, blindly.

                  The verses are numbered, you can say an exact quote in the Bible by line number, and they still can’t do it (Trump is there waving The Bible around for a camera, it’s right here in the book). Something very wrong with their reading comprehension here.