There is no video of gang rape in that link.

I’m well aware of the definition of genocide. My point was that the threshold for accusing Israel of genocide is very, very low.

Funny how people are so quick to accept anything people say about what Israel does but then turn around and argue about the evidence from 10/7.

LOL “commit so many genocides”

That just shows how meaningless the word is now. I’ll bet you didn’t know that anti-Zionists were accusing Israel of genocide during the 2014 war with Hamas - a war that lasted 6 weeks and had a death toll of a whopping 2300.

Your perspective on the conflict is totally warped. Israel is not the bully. We’re talking about a tiny country of 9 million people that you can drive across in 3 hours at its widest point. It is surrounded by Arab nations that have tried to destroy it several times, and for the past 30 years has been bullied by the proxies of the genocidal Iranian regime. Iran is the real bully in the Middle East.

Yeah, no

Really strange that they’re revealing this 3 weeks after it happened

Free the people of Iran

No, people who celebrate terrorism and call for globalized intifada are “pro-Hamas”

This isn’t rocket science here. Can you show me a single Palestinian rally where there was anything resembling peaceful “criticism of Israel?”

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How are they “so obviously fake”?

Have you been living in a Hamas tunnel for the past year?

I could spend hours filling this sub with examples. I’m not going to play your game though.

Right, because we all know mainstream media like the BBC isn’t biased. This is the same news organization that published an article complaining about the environmental impact of the IDF whereas the Hamas rockets are much better for the environment. Fucking joke.

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I haven’t been on Lemmy very long, but it’s become painfully clear this site is just an echo chamber for Marxists and anti-Zionists.

LOL at “pro Hamas mobs” - people who dress up like Hamas, celebrate 10/7, call to globalize the intifada (which is exactly what happened in Amsterdam), and openly express sympathy for Hamas ARE PRO-HAMAS.

This is hilariously hypocritical.

Pro-Hamas mobs have been marching on our streets and occupying our college campuses for over a year, screaming genocidal chants and telling Jews to go back to Poland. Our businesses and synagogues have been vandalized, firebombed, and shot at. But now all of a sudden one group of unruly soccer fans and you’re all, “Well, they were saying bad stuff, they got what’s coming to them.”

By the way, this was a planned and coordinated attack. Not a spontaneous angry response. https://x.com/stop_jew_hate/status/1854881566553411612

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Yes, the Middle East is a rough, regressive, oppressive neighborhood. Islam has a lot to do with that.

But there are Muslim countries that have shown an interest in at least progressing from the most archaic and extreme interpretations of Islam. Those countries are pursuing normalization with Israel not because they suddenly like Jews, but because they respect the strength and prosperity of Israel and recognize it as a valuable partner for their own national development. These countries have put their past conflicts with Israel behind them.

Ironically, the people of Iran are among the least antisemitic in that part of the world. They scored lower on the ADL Global 100 than Greece!

Over the long term, yes.

There will always be jihadists and Islamist terrorists will always exist on a small scale, but without the backing of Iran none of it would exist on a scale that can threaten Israel or other countries in the region. The moderate Sunni countries like SA would become the main Muslim influence in the region and could help bring the Middle East into a new era of peace and prosperity.

I never said we’re special. But if the IDF is telling people to move out of harm’s way in the middle of a war, the simplest and most likely explanation is that they don’t want to kill those people.

Unfortunately this is not like every other ethnic conflict. That’s where the left is wrong, thinking this is just the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and we can sort it out with diplomacy. Those of us who understand the broader context don’t see it as the Israeli/Palestinian conflict but the Israel/Iran war. This is about a genocidal Islamist regime that wants Israel literally destroyed and is willing to destroy countries and sacrifice their people (Palestinians, Lebanon, Syria) to accomplish that goal. *They’re *the bad guys here.

I see, so you think Israel is telling civilians to move just so they *look *merciful. Because it just can’t be possible that Israeli leaders are human beings with consciences and actually want to prevent civilian death if they can. Is that the implication?

Yes, of course my plan rests on a lot of assumptions. The settlements are the most complex part of negotiating peace between the two sides. But agreements have been reached in principle in the past (like Camp David and Taba). It’s difficult but not impossible, provided both sides are willing to figure it out. I probably should have included in my plan that the Netanyahu government eventually has to be replaced by a more moderate administration.