We were doing this regularly as a matter of policy with illegal immigrants until…let me check my notes…the 2020’s.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hundreds-of-migrant-children-remain-separated-from-families-despite-push-to-reunite-them

I don’t support much of anything Russia has ever done, but this is not a point where we have any moral high ground over them whatsoever.

It’s becoming a lot easier to use the internet a lot less. It’s been turned into such a user-hostile space so domineered by corporations and fascists that most of the internet doesn’t really hold much of an appeal anymore, at least for me.

If the internet died tomorrow and didn’t come back, I’d be annoyed about not being able to use it to order food, manage my bank account, or watch shows/movies, but the world would likely be an overall better place once logistics re-adapted to not having it.

The internet was cool for the first 10-15 years, but it’s been a rapidly worsening cesspit for a long time. Nothing the internet can offer us is worth also tolerating it as a tool for inescapable government and corporate surveillance, and as the most effective imagineable breeding ground for fascism and disinformation.

The internet makes our lives worse in so many more ways than it imporves them, and people are too fucking addicted to it to give a shit.

For one, the fact that whether someone was tried and convicted was generally not based on guilt, but whether or not they were of use to the allies or not.

Werner Von Braun was probably the most famous example, but there are hundreds of others.

I wish I was this naive and ignorant of literally every shred of credible scientific evidence. I’d be a lot happier.

I don’t care? The Nuremburg trials aren’t the source of basic morality and ethics. They aren’t even a particularly good example of it, if you’ve actually got any familiarity with what actually happened.

Oh, are we going back to “I was just following orders” being an excuse?

Have you tried just being a goose?

I’m not going to be nice to people who insist on keeping the world a dying, dystopian shithole, and it’s not my job to think for them. If people refuse to take a moral stance in the face of societal destruction, they can go fuck themselves and deserve to be belittled.

It’s legitimately cool that buying a new car and having any self-respect whatsoever are mutually exclusive now.

Fuck cars.

My bad. I didn’t realize I was talking to someone stupid enough to look at the state of the world and still be able to cling to the idea that large-scale industrialism has a viable place in the future of society.

Nah, get with the times. They’re putting kids back in factories and kitchens now.

I’d prefer if you asked what the fuck is right with America so the answer can be two sentences rather than the length of a novel.

Go into a conservative space and tell them people have a right to food and shelter and medical care and watch them froth in rage.

But if you specifically say that they have a right to those things, they’ll wholeheartedly agree.

Any parent can tell you that a hungry child isn’t capable of doing any complex activity.

Neither is a hungry adult. Free access to food should be a constitutional right.

Why would we not have those things? Are you incapable of conceptualizing having motivations for creating and doing things other than for financial profit? Why, in your estimation, can’t we have a system were people do things because they care about those things and they’re worth doing because they benefit everyone?

Money is an artificial construct serves no real purpose other than to consolidate power and resources into the hands of a few by depriving the many and keeping them in servitude. Removing money as a motivation, if something is worth having, people will want to have it, which means that some of those people will still choose make/do that thing for their own benefit, which in turn benefits everyone.

If the point of working for money is to use that money to obtain goods and services, there’s no reason to just get rid of the money aspect and just make those goods and services available directly. The only thing that really changes is that we stop over-working ourselves to over-produce frivolous bullshit for the sake of generating more wealth for the wealthy while being denied the fruits of that work.

Would you rather go back to white people invading third world countries? That’s the alternative. I sure don’t want that, you’re a shitty person if you do.

You’re missing the concept completely. It’s not about not perfoming labor, it’s about eliminating work.

Labor is performing tasks that need to be done to meet the needs of the individual and the community. That’s not what work is. Work is exploitation. Work is about financial profit for the benefit of the powerful few at the expense of the worker.

Work is parasitism. It forces us into a life of ruthless, competitive struggle and leaves the loser majority in miserable, pointless servitude. Labor is an act of necessity and generosity, not a commodity. It has purpose and serves the whole, which then serves the individual. Labor creates, supports, and improves the community, while work domineers it and drains it for the profit of others.

There already is. It’s “work reform.”

No, you actually can’t do that. You’ll go to jail when they catch you. Unless you have a shitload of money to buy property and cover the taxes on it for the rest of your life, you can’t just leave society and live in the wilderness and expect not to be persecuted for it.

They’re a sovereign nation. What are we gonna do, launch a military invasion? And it’s not like sanctions are a realistic solution, either; the west is far more dependent on Saudi oil than the Saudis are on western money. The world is chock full of other customers that will be more than happy to step up.

Yes, pretty much everything the Saudis do is abhorrent, but unless you’re suggesting that the answer to their crimes is to commit even worse crimes against them, you’re just flailing around spouting off impotent virtue signals.

Just like in any other country, the only legitimate way to solve the problem of govenment corruption and oppression is for the people of that country to force a regime change.