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    1. list.append returns None so what you’ve actually got is a list comprehension that generates a list containing the value None 19 times. (using functions with side effects, such as list.append, in list comprehensions are generally bad style so you should avoid this)
    2. The list[...] syntax retrieves elements from the list, which is not what you’re trying to do here. (and it is actually invalid syntax in this case)
    3. You should generally avoid calling lists list, because list is already a builtin.

    If you want to append the numbers 1 to 19 to a list as you’re trying to do you can call the list.extend function with the list comprehension [value for value in range(1, 20)] as the argument. (Although in this case you can also just use the range directly.) To do it without list comprehensions you can simply loop over the range and repeatedly call the append function.






  • No, you’re not basing your assumptions on how genuine someone is being, you’re basing your assumptions on your assumptions of how genuine they’re being.

    Dismissing someone’s arguments by establishing they’re acting in bad faith is a valid rhetorical tactic but it doesn’t work if you can’t establish that. And labeling their argument as something it isn’t doesn’t help with that.

    Addressing someone’s presumed ignorance is helpful because you’re also providing information for onlookers, pointing out the harmful effects of what someone’s saying (like potentially muddying the waters when it comes to recognizing dog whistles) is constructive, attacking anyone who may be acting in bad faith but could just as easily just be ignorant is just a waste of your energy.

    I’m not particularly interested in defending the person you replied to, I don’t think they made a good case either. I just want people to be a bit more discerning with the terms they use. (And I have a compulsive need to correct people which I’m aware is really annoying.)


  • Yes, I simplified for the sake of brevity. But you’re reading a lot into their comments that just isn’t there. Yes they were running interference for a nazi (and not making a particularly compelling case) but there’s nothing to indicate it was intentional. (It’s not a strawman argument either btw, unless you’re claiming they intentionally ignored the boogaloo reference rather than just not knowing about them.)

    Edit: Also I don’t think not making assumptions about someone’s motivations is the same thing as ‘putting faith’ in them.



  • decivex@yiffit.nettoA Boring Dystopia@lemmy.worldSaw a nazi today
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    Moving the goalposts means changing the rules of a debate while having it. They said they’d agree with them being a Nazi if there was evidence beyond the number 88 being on the license plate, someone else pointed out what the “BOOG” meant, they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi. No goalposts moved.