Main account -> matthieu_xyz@calckey.social
@matthieu_xyz @fediverse @vaguerant @PabloDiscobar
If I use mastodon. I don’t need to signup or install anything. I can just get the content for free. They get minimal info about me (less metadata than in an email even!!) and I gave them no authorization to datamine anything! I’m also free from their terrible algorithm. It’s like all good content in my inbox at no cost.
(And OP is right. Posting from mastodon is a pain in the ass)
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@vaguerant
@PabloDiscobar
If I install Threads I need to signup. To signup I need to sign their ToS and give up all my rights. Then I need to install an app that will spy on my phone and send them a ton of info about me. And private info, not just the content of what I post. And they can resell and datamine that info because I gave them the right to do it.
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@rozno @SuperSpruce
Choosing a server is often the hardest step. That’s why you should send the signup page of your fav instance to your friends and not the official lemmy page.
@thegiddystitcher @RedirectedPotato
Another con: You become an admin/moderator and have to keep up to date with the latest bad servers to defederate from and you’ll have to deal with all kind of bad posts yourself instead of relying on a moderation team.
@slicedcheesegremlin
Mastodon users have the option to opt-out of search engines indexing by adding tags to their post hat are readable by web crawlers.
So you might not find everything from mastodon, but for a reddit-like it makes sense to be indexed.
@Eggyhead
What I love with this twitter/4chan/reddit example is that among others Wordpress, Tumblr and instagram are working on implementing ActivityPub.
There is a very real possible future where a Tumblr user will reblog a wordpress article and an instagramer will see it and reply to it.
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@WatTyler
There is a demo of an algorithmic timeline thingy for mastodon at https://fedifeed.herokuapp.com/ and I really really like how it has a bunch of sliders for fine-tuning. The time penalty in particular is very important.
Would be absolutely awesome to have the same on lemmy.
Edit: Lemmy doesn’t show my picture…
@ValueSubtracted
Instance users are only local users.
Community users include remote users who remotely subscribed to the community.
So the community users will always be higher than the number of instance users.
And it still doesn’t count lurkers like we who reply to a thread without subscribing.
@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.
We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website
@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.
A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.
You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.
Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.
Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.
The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.
Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!
Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.
@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about “replace”, but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.
I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:
- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum
Last time I check those were a few popular social media.
Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy
@aianarchist @CannotSleep420
There need to be one first follower for the community to be synced.
You are the first to follow this community from this lemmy server. Now the community is synced and will keep updating.
I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.
Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.
@bruhsoulz asklemmy is like a mailing list or a twitter bot that retweets everything it receives. If it can’t receive messages, it can’t retweet/boost/forward them to others.
@bruhsoulz
If you want an example of what happens when two servers block one another.
calckey.social and lemmy.one can talk to each other. So my post is visible here: https://lemmy.one/comment/33034
calckey.social can’t talk with lemmy.ml so the post isn’t on lemmy.ml
Since lemmy.ml is the home server of “asklemmy”, it can’t be forwarded to other servers so no one can see it except lemmy.one and calckey.social
That’s a lot of message duplication and it will have some growing pains for the lemmy admins, but at least exploration shouldn’t be too hard.
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@xboxLIVE @bruhsoulz
> I’m not sure if I’m able to see all posts
If only ONE user from pawb.social follows !some_community@lemmy.ml, then the entire community and all new messages will be sent to pawb.social.
So, unless your instance have a very low amount of user or the community you’re looking for has a very low amount of followers, every mid-sized community will soon be synced on all mid-sized lemmy server.
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@fediverse @PabloDiscobar @vaguerant
This is not how federation works. You only get the content from the people you follow. If you run a single user instance and you follow 5 people you only get the content from 5 people. If they’re all in the same server it can even be grouped as a single request to the shared inbox.
Meta can have 100M, 1B, 5B users it change nothing for rest of us. Unless one of the local users really want to follow a million of accounts.