*I support it if it can happen without corruption

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    I suppose you don’t support any socialist country ever then ? They all had censorship and they almost all got accused of human rights violations. (And except for Cambodia, those have always either been completely false, or gross exaggeration.)

    You shouldn’t trust capitalist media, they have a very important incentive to steer people away from anything that would damage their power.

    Most of those human rights allegations have been debunked numerous times, by MLs and others. You can find a bunch of them on YouTube pretty easily. BayArea’s video about Xinjiang should still be up somewhere, and I believe BadEmpata did a good assessment of it too, even though he’s vehemently anti-AES and not someone I would usually recommend.

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      Badempanada debunked the nore egregious claims but then stupidly concluded that declining birth rates mean something bad is happening, as if such a thing was not a consequence of improving material conditions.

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        He was probably just looking for something bad to say. He’s basically a lib, so he’s undoubtedly a believer that any investigation has to show both sides or smth.

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      (And except for Cambodia, those have always either been completely false, or gross exaggeration.)

      Well, Cambodia was exaggerated too, it just wasn’t false like most stories are. Furthermore I’d add Peru to the list of socialist states (from when it was under Gonzalo) that can be pretty safely denounced, along with Cambodia.

      Even in the case of bad leftwing governments like Cambodia and Peru, the truth and the mere actual crimes aren’t enough for the west, perhaps because then they wouldn’t be able to keep up with the imaginary crimes of the USSR, PRC, and DPRK!