• Aqarius@lemmy.world
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      No, but it sure wasn’t Russia either. Not everything that makes Ukraine look bad is Russian propaganda.

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        That is. It’s been blaring from their media for a solid year now, and is the stated casus belli of their invasion. It is 100% Russian-produced misinformation, leveraging the fact that people don’t know anything about Ukrainian history to attack them with false stories.

        It’s an old trick. The Nazis tried to convince the world Poles were stupid and needed to be ruled by overlords, by misrepresenting and twisting stories with their propaganda. Poles never actually charged tanks with their cavalry, there are no records of that ever happening, from Nazi or Polish sources.

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          That is. What, inviting an SS volunteer to the Canadian Parliament? That’s Russian propaganda?

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            So, Ukraine didn’t invite dude to Canadian Parliament. People think they did, even though that’s not really even feasible. Where do you think that unnatural idea most likely came from?

            Russian propaganda exists. It’s out there. People listen to it sometimes.

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              Who thinks they did? Everything I heard was people making fun of Canadians, because it’s their fuckup.

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                Just elsewhere in this thread there’s an example. Are you, perhaps, a Russian propagandist? I can’t think of why else someone would try to downplay Russian propaganda, when it’s so clearly and obviously being pumped out. As we would expect, since there’s a war ongoing.

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                    Do you think they are rare or something? Musicians get fans, politicians get fans, sports teams get fans, but Russia doesn’t?

                    Propaganda is fucking common as fuck. In every country in the world. I don’t know why this hard truth is so difficult to swallow.

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        It’d be hard for Ukraine to invite anyone to the Canadian Parliament when Ukraine is not part of the Canadian Parliament. They’re the invitee, not the inviter.

        Like, I can’t just invite myself into your house, that’s just not how invitation works.

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          So I looked into it more. At first I thought that the Nazi was Zelenski’s +1 and it was Zelenski who didn’t know who he was, but it turns out the Nazi was invited by the speaker of Canada’s House of Commons as a fighter of the First Ukrainian Division, not knowing that the division was a volunteer Nazi unit