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Dude, we both know that there is no space where right wingers have ācivilized dicussionsā, at least not in places where non-right wingers are toleratedā¦ You guys seem to communicate via facebook tier memes at this point. The only possible place to have any contact with right wingers are āfree-speechā meme communities because everywhere else, I would get banned pretty much immediately.
Those subs probably have the highest number of users right
They are the only communities with any numbers right now, the rest is virtually deadā¦
Well, if speech is free, then why not?
āFree speechā kinda implies that memes with different opinions and views are posted. Instead, the opposite is the case, itās virtually only one viewpoint that is presented.
However, I donāt set out to exclusively post stuff about Trans despite what you seem to be thinking.
Given your attitude towards the trans community, I definitely donāt think you do it on purposeā¦ In practice, I still see a community that is obsessed with the trans community to an absurd degreeā¦
I have plenty of posts memeing other topics like socialism, authoritarian regimes, Joe and Hunter Biden, censorship, how leftists like as a group tend to have a large number of individuals that claim to be more accepting / less racist but in actually are less accepting / more racist, and so on.
Right, the way I see it, you guys have exactly two topics, or one topic depending on how you look at it. Itās āthe gays/homos/transā and āthe leftā. In practice, those two are often treated as the same thing.
Thatās pretty much it. Itās pretty much the same as the liberals who go on about Trump all day long and about how everyone not living in cities is a violent racist homophobeā¦
Now, I know what your probably thinking. Some guy that creates a s/n about hating troons is probably a ātransphobic bigotā.
Personally, I give zero fucks what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.
Right, but the thing is nobody will ever believe you when you are called āihatetroonsā, write about how much you hate ātroonsā, post memes about how ātroonsā are pedos, etc.
Itās pretty much the same as the KKK member saying āIām not racist, I have a black friendā or āI donāt hate black people, I just want them to live seperately from white people, thatās better for everyoneā. Either your definition of ātransphobic bigotā is different from most others or you are just a bad trollā¦
And if someone wants to irreparably mutilate their own bodies instead of going to a therapist
Right, thatās how it works, you just go to the trans factory and say āone body mutilating transition pleaseāā¦
But when those same politics start bringing that stuff into the grade school classrooms or bullying tactics like āyou canāt disagree with us or youāre a bigotā start getting thrown around, then I give lots of fucks.
The funny thing is that it was mostly you guys yourself that have built that narrativeā¦ Sure, if you go looking for it, you will find dumb people doing dumb things, thatās true for every possible group of people. But you guys seem to be working overtime to keep up the fantasy world where you get oppressed daily intact and thatās on you.
Iāve also seen several online tech forums that have nothing to do with gender of any kind invite all types and over the course of several years end up getting a lot of trans and furry content posted all over in the general areas, which kind of pissed me off.
No way, tech online forums are filled with weird nerds who like strange stuff? Who would have thoughtā¦
The issue in my view was the move away from strongly moderated forums where your comment would get removed for the simplest of reasons towards the idea that online forums should be as unmoderated as humanly possible because of āfreedom of speechā. And the reason this happened was probably because big tech didnāt want the effort that comes with moderating a community.
But of course you want a free-speech forum, or am I wrong?
So if speaking out about stuff like that makes me a hater, then I donāt care anymore.
Being critical or questioning things doesnāt make one a hater. But again, you are literally called āihatetroonsā, so I seriously donāt understand why you want to act suprised when people actually take what you say half-way seriouslyā¦ Donāt you think this whole game about āI donāt really dislike trans people, well just a little bit, but I actually hate the politicsā is a bit silly? I mean again, even if you were just using that name to be edgy and to trigger the libs (which everyone claims), you are actively trying to signal to everyone that you hate trans people, so you shouldnāt be suprised when people think you actually doā¦
there is no space where right wingers have ācivilized dicussionsā
You mean bc the left get their panties in a wad when we - even in polite, pg-13 tones - donāt go along with the leftās narratives and hivemind mentality so they block us on other platforms? Not our fault that you lot are so thin skinned.
You guys seem to communicate via facebook tier memes at this point.
As I was saying before: THIS IS A MEME SUB. I donāt know that I can simplify it anymore than that for you mateā¦
The only possible place to have any contact with right wingers are āfree-speechā meme communities
Again, not by our design. But even then, as I mentioned earlier, there are in fact other communities on this instance. They have mostly all the same folks that are in here posting memes.
My point was that a lot of the time, people post memes to chill and relax. And they go to discussion subs to have discussions. Is anyone telling you that you canāt exercise your free speech by making discussion comments in the meme section? No. I was just pointing out that you probably arenāt going to get great feedback here, bc a) discussion is not the focus of this sub (memes are) and b) your complaint is essentially against others exercising their free speech, on an instance and sub where that is explicitly allowedā¦
They are the only communities with any numbers right now, the rest is virtually deadā¦
DMT is more anything goes (read: MUCH better for discussion, tho complaining about folks using free speech still isnāt likely to get great results; my guess is most just ignore you, block you, or tell you to piss off but youāre free to try)
āFree speechā kinda implies that memes with different opinions and views are posted. Instead, the opposite is the case, itās virtually only one viewpoint that is presented.
Ummā¦no, it does not. I think you may be confused on what free speech means. It means only that you are free to say whatever you want, unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law (e.g. yelling āfireā in a movie theater as a prank would not be protected).
There is NO stipulation whatsoever about WHAT someone will speak on, only what they CAN speak on.
And community rules are set by the community creators and can be more or less inclusive than those of the site as a whole. e.g. site as a whole does not allow some particular language in ALL communities but site owner has given ok on specific communities to have language that is not generally acceptable on the site. Likewise, any given community is free to decide that they want. Be that 100% free speech from all sides, only free speech that is prohibited elsewhere on the web, or whatever else.
So if a community mod wanted to make standards that where basically like reddit but for right-wingers, then they could do so.
obsessed with the trans community to an absurd degreeā¦
See what you like. Personally, I would say āextremely frustrated withā fits better than āobsessed withā but whatever you like.
Right, the way I see it, you guys have exactly two topics, or one topic depending on how you look at it. Itās āthe gays/homos/transā and āthe leftā. In practice, those two are often treated as the same thing.
Even assuming that you arenāt wrong and being overly reductive based on your own biasesā¦ Let me ask this: So what? In practice, itās a conservative instance. Did you expect something different? A lot of us already have accounts elsewhere where we post the normal fare. This sub is for all the stuff we canāt post anywhere else.
If youāre looking for āsafeā memes, thereās a funmemes community here on this instance that is strictly for non-offensive stuff but really you can get that anywhere. If you want discussion, thereās DMT if you have thick enough skin, and several other communities if you donāt.
But DankMemes on EH is one of the few places you can get conservative memes on the web without getting a bunch of jew-hating / black-hating propaganda. Yeah, weāre probably not much better towards trannies, tankies, and wokees than any other conservative place. And you probably wonāt believe me or care about the difference but if you spend time at the other places, weāre actually pretty damn tame in comparison.
Right, but the thing is nobody will ever believe you when you are called āihatetroonsā, write about how much you hate ātroonsā, post memes about how ātroonsā are pedos, etc.
ok. Thing is though, I donāt really care. In fact, besides testing the waters here, my main goal with the s/n was to create something that the most disagreeable, sjw/activist cunts would probably block on sight so that I wouldnāt need to bother with them.
I might decide to change it later if thatās still allowed. Might not. Now that Iāve been here a little while, I think they are pretty chill about s/nās and I donāt think we have much of the folks I was worried about here. If we did, I can only think that every defed reduces that number significantly.
Right, thatās how it works, you just go to the trans factory and say āone body mutilating transition pleaseāā¦
They can dress it up with pretty words. But if you paint a turd gold, itās still a turd and you have nothing to show for it but shit on your hands.
No way, tech online forums are filled with weird nerds who like strange stuff? Who would have thoughtā¦
Wasnāt a stab at them liking weird stuff. They can like whatever the fuck the want as long as it isnāt hurting anyone. The point in bringing it up was that they were posting off-topic shit repeatedly and frequently and whenever people would speak up about it, bc it just happened to be an agenda speaking point for the left, all rational discussion about alternatives was immediately shut down and any making the suggestions either accused of bigotry etc or banned.
If furries or trannyfags want to create a sister sub or limit themselves to a weekly thread or something then whatever. But posting it repeatedly, then having the mods sit back and not only take their side but outright silence the opposition, is subversive in the extreme.
Being critical or questioning things doesnāt make one a hater. But again, you are literally called āihatetroonsā, so I seriously donāt understand why you want to act suprised when people actually take what you say half-way seriouslyā¦
Funny, bc all the stuff I was talking about was from BEFORE I decided to adopt that little moniker. And in a very real way, you could say that I wouldnāt have bothered with it but for past grievances.
Donāt you think this whole game about āI donāt really dislike trans people, well just a little bit, but I actually hate the politicsā is a bit silly?
To you maybe. I do hate the politics behind it. I think of eunuchs and feel not a shred of anger, hatred, or malicious intentions. I might think much of the idea, and I may think even less of tacking on a bonus hole.
I get that you probably would love it if you could somehow get me to see that Iām a bigot and change my ways. And Iāll give you props for at least being much more civil and pleasant to talk to than many of your comradesā¦ but I wouldnāt hold my breath if I were you.
you are actively trying to signal to everyone that you hate trans people, so you shouldnāt be suprised when people think you actually doā¦
Thatās fine. Like I said, it was a very calculated and intentional move to throw off the rabid dogs trans ārightsā warriors and any trans that could be called goons (troons). Was never about me bashing individuals. If it eases your conscience to chalk me up as a trans hater, go right ahead. I really donāt care even a little bit.
But the fact remains that leftists drove me to it and that I donāt intend on changing.
Ah yes of course, another thing to blame the left forā¦
so they block us on other platforms
I think the reason why you get banned on the big platforms is because you are bad for business and because you turn every community into a call of duty lobby where a bunch of (either emotional or physical) 14 year olds scream slurs at eachotherā¦ Thatās not a place where businesses want to advertise, woke advertising and pretending to care about social issues is the latest fad and you donāt fit into that, so you get the bootā¦
Also, you are free to have your community hereā¦ Nobody can censor youā¦ Of course people and other services can block/defederate you, but you could still have a conservative utopia here where you have discussions. Instead, all you do is complain about āthe leftā, as you always doā¦ What happened to personal responsibility?
I know Iām repeating myself, but you canāt call yourself āIhatetroonsā, simultaniously cry about how the left unfairly accuses you of āhating troonsā and expect anyone to take anything you say seriouslyā¦
THIS IS A MEME SUB.
Yeah no shitā¦ But there are 2 subs on this server which have any content, and both of them are meme subsā¦ Is the left stopping you from participating in non-meme subs on your own server?
Again, not by our design.
So the left is also responsible for how you design your spaces?
there are in fact other communities on this instance.
Are there? The closest to being an actual community is ask-exploding heads, and there are like 5 posts with comments in itā¦ I mean I get it, the defederation trend doesnāt help this community grow, but if your whole position is an uncompromising and provoking attitude, I am asking myself once more what else you would expect the big instances to do.
Even from a pragmatic point of view, what admin would voluntarily say āoh yes, I would love to have more controversial memes on my server, thatās always fun.ā. In reality, all this gets you is more people complaining about stuff on your server and/or a bigger moderation effort. You have to be pretty passionate about anti-trans memes in order to federate with a server like yours, or be a small enough server that not enough people care.
I think you may be confused on what free speech means.
We are talking about āfree-speechā in the context of an international online forum, not in the context of US law, so I do think itās a bit interesting to think about how your āfree speechā forum has a very one-sided narrative.
Did you expect something different?
No, to be honest, I didnāt. But it still is interesting to actually see that even if you have full control over your server, even if you get to make the rules, you are still doing the same thing as always: Blame āthe leftā for everything all day long without suggesting any viable solutions.
If you want discussion, thereās DMT if you have thick enough skin
ok. Thing is though, I donāt really care.
Yeah, but again, I canāt really believes youā¦ To me, you obviously seem to go out of your way to be percieved as a transphobic biggot.
Itās like the 16 year old punk kid with a huge pink mohawk who will insist that āI donāt give a fuck what people think about my looksā, yet he will spend 2 hours a day to get his look just rightā¦
So I donāt know exactly what it is, maybe you crave attention, maybe itās a sex thing, idk, but I think you definitely care, whether you realize it or notā¦
my main goal with the s/n was to create something that the most disagreeable, sjw/activist cunts would probably block on sight so that I wouldnāt need to bother with them.
If what you are saying is actually serious, your logic would be deeply flawed. If I was annoyed by star wars fans on the internet, the last thing I would want to do is call myself āstar_wars_sucksā because obviously, all that would do is provoke star wars fans into attacking meā¦ And I also canāt really figure out how posting āstar wars sucksā memes would help in any way.
The best way to not get bothered by people is by not mentioning the topic that annoys you at all and maybe block people who bring it up, but if I was posting memes online about how āstar wars sucksā, I would definitely expect to be bothered by star wars fans.
If you want discussion, thereās DMT if you have thick enough skin
Damn, you really think of yourself as an edgy badass, donāt you? DMT is another right wing meme sub imo, nothing special.
They can dress it up with pretty words.
The point is that you seem to believe that people can just go to a hospital and get surgery instead of going to a therapist. Thats not how it works, you go to a therapist first.
they were posting off-topic shit repeatedly and frequently
Which is annoying, but the solution to that is moderation, right? Back in the forum days, you had admins who would remove your post instantly if you dared to post the wrong topic to the wrong place. But at one point, the idea that doing that would be āagainst free speechā became popular.
What else do you think would solve this issue?
Funny, bc all the stuff I was talking about was from BEFORE I decided to adopt that little moniker.
Even if we forget the username, you make it a point that you are āextremely frustrated withā the trans community, you call them ātrannyfagsā, talk about them āmutilating their bodiesā, even admit that you donāt like them. Did you also only start doing things like that when you adapted the name?
I mean we are talking about the internet here, people misunderstand eachother constantly and chronically irregardless of the topic. You can recieve death threats for saying something like āVideogame x was pretty good, but y was betterāā¦ How can you act in any way suprised or offended at people on the internet calling you a biggot for anything? Didnāt you just mention āthick skinā and the importance of āfree speechā and āposting offensive contentā? Now you want to tell me that you were so offended at somebody calling you a biggot that essentially you became a biggot, at least as far as your online appearance goes?
I do hate the politics behind it.
Iām not quite sure what you mean with āthe politics behind itā, but isnāt everyone sick of the culture war politics stuff?
I know you will probably disagree, but from āthe leftāsā perspective, it isnāt the left thatās pushing the trans stuff. The left just wants what it always wanted, essentially the same thing you also claim to believe in: To let everyone live their lives how they want as long as they donāt restrict someone elsesā liberty. Itās right wing politicians who scapegoat social minorities in order to divide people.
I get that you probably would love it if you could somehow get me to see that Iām a bigot and change my ways.
I mean your views are your views, if you genuinly donāt want to hurt anyone and donāt want to restrict anyoneās freedom, I donāt care too much what you believe in.
If Iām being honest, the thing that annoys me about right wingers the most isnāt their view, itās how many present their views. And itās not even you choosing the āwrong languageā or whatever, itās you seemingly going out of your way to provoke and be offensive, at the same time acting all offended when people inevitably get offended by your provocations and donāt want anything to do with you, and at the same time you then complain about the left getting offendedā¦ Itās so frustratingly confusing and makes most dialoge impossibleā¦
And donāt get me wrong, I see similar behavior on the left as well, you have left leaning city people who unironically believe that all rural people are backwater hillbilly incest racist biggots. But that just makes it more frustrating as both sides just focus on complaining about the āidiotsā on the other side and nothing ever gets doneā¦
And while I will not be able to stop myself from voicing my opinions as you can see, I donāt have any expectations of you changing your views. This is mostly about my interest in the views of people who think radically different than me or perhaps about if we have any possibility of getting along or at least share our views despite having radically different views.
But the fact remains that leftists drove me to it and that I donāt intend on changing.
Damn, the left really does control everything, doesnāt it, even your own actions are actually the actions of the left at the end of the dayā¦
If it eases your conscience to chalk me up as a trans hater, go right ahead. I really donāt care even a little bit.
Yeah again, this does make me think that it is indeed a sex thing. You get hard by people calling you a disgusting transphobic biggot, donāt you, you naughty naughty boyā¦
Jokes aside, you have been a good sport, so thanks for suprising me and actually giving me somewhat of a ācivil conversationā.
Dude, we both know that there is no space where right wingers have ācivilized dicussionsā, at least not in places where non-right wingers are toleratedā¦ You guys seem to communicate via facebook tier memes at this point. The only possible place to have any contact with right wingers are āfree-speechā meme communities because everywhere else, I would get banned pretty much immediately.
They are the only communities with any numbers right now, the rest is virtually deadā¦
āFree speechā kinda implies that memes with different opinions and views are posted. Instead, the opposite is the case, itās virtually only one viewpoint that is presented.
Given your attitude towards the trans community, I definitely donāt think you do it on purposeā¦ In practice, I still see a community that is obsessed with the trans community to an absurd degreeā¦
Right, the way I see it, you guys have exactly two topics, or one topic depending on how you look at it. Itās āthe gays/homos/transā and āthe leftā. In practice, those two are often treated as the same thing.
Thatās pretty much it. Itās pretty much the same as the liberals who go on about Trump all day long and about how everyone not living in cities is a violent racist homophobeā¦
Right, but the thing is nobody will ever believe you when you are called āihatetroonsā, write about how much you hate ātroonsā, post memes about how ātroonsā are pedos, etc.
Itās pretty much the same as the KKK member saying āIām not racist, I have a black friendā or āI donāt hate black people, I just want them to live seperately from white people, thatās better for everyoneā. Either your definition of ātransphobic bigotā is different from most others or you are just a bad trollā¦
Right, thatās how it works, you just go to the trans factory and say āone body mutilating transition pleaseāā¦
The funny thing is that it was mostly you guys yourself that have built that narrativeā¦ Sure, if you go looking for it, you will find dumb people doing dumb things, thatās true for every possible group of people. But you guys seem to be working overtime to keep up the fantasy world where you get oppressed daily intact and thatās on you.
No way, tech online forums are filled with weird nerds who like strange stuff? Who would have thoughtā¦
The issue in my view was the move away from strongly moderated forums where your comment would get removed for the simplest of reasons towards the idea that online forums should be as unmoderated as humanly possible because of āfreedom of speechā. And the reason this happened was probably because big tech didnāt want the effort that comes with moderating a community.
But of course you want a free-speech forum, or am I wrong?
Being critical or questioning things doesnāt make one a hater. But again, you are literally called āihatetroonsā, so I seriously donāt understand why you want to act suprised when people actually take what you say half-way seriouslyā¦ Donāt you think this whole game about āI donāt really dislike trans people, well just a little bit, but I actually hate the politicsā is a bit silly? I mean again, even if you were just using that name to be edgy and to trigger the libs (which everyone claims), you are actively trying to signal to everyone that you hate trans people, so you shouldnāt be suprised when people think you actually doā¦
You mean bc the left get their panties in a wad when we - even in polite, pg-13 tones - donāt go along with the leftās narratives and hivemind mentality so they block us on other platforms? Not our fault that you lot are so thin skinned.
As I was saying before: THIS IS A MEME SUB. I donāt know that I can simplify it anymore than that for you mateā¦
Again, not by our design. But even then, as I mentioned earlier, there are in fact other communities on this instance. They have mostly all the same folks that are in here posting memes.
My point was that a lot of the time, people post memes to chill and relax. And they go to discussion subs to have discussions. Is anyone telling you that you canāt exercise your free speech by making discussion comments in the meme section? No. I was just pointing out that you probably arenāt going to get great feedback here, bc a) discussion is not the focus of this sub (memes are) and b) your complaint is essentially against others exercising their free speech, on an instance and sub where that is explicitly allowedā¦
DMT is more anything goes (read: MUCH better for discussion, tho complaining about folks using free speech still isnāt likely to get great results; my guess is most just ignore you, block you, or tell you to piss off but youāre free to try)
Ummā¦no, it does not. I think you may be confused on what free speech means. It means only that you are free to say whatever you want, unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law (e.g. yelling āfireā in a movie theater as a prank would not be protected).
There is NO stipulation whatsoever about WHAT someone will speak on, only what they CAN speak on.
And community rules are set by the community creators and can be more or less inclusive than those of the site as a whole. e.g. site as a whole does not allow some particular language in ALL communities but site owner has given ok on specific communities to have language that is not generally acceptable on the site. Likewise, any given community is free to decide that they want. Be that 100% free speech from all sides, only free speech that is prohibited elsewhere on the web, or whatever else.
So if a community mod wanted to make standards that where basically like reddit but for right-wingers, then they could do so.
See what you like. Personally, I would say āextremely frustrated withā fits better than āobsessed withā but whatever you like.
Even assuming that you arenāt wrong and being overly reductive based on your own biasesā¦ Let me ask this: So what? In practice, itās a conservative instance. Did you expect something different? A lot of us already have accounts elsewhere where we post the normal fare. This sub is for all the stuff we canāt post anywhere else.
If youāre looking for āsafeā memes, thereās a funmemes community here on this instance that is strictly for non-offensive stuff but really you can get that anywhere. If you want discussion, thereās DMT if you have thick enough skin, and several other communities if you donāt.
But DankMemes on EH is one of the few places you can get conservative memes on the web without getting a bunch of jew-hating / black-hating propaganda. Yeah, weāre probably not much better towards trannies, tankies, and wokees than any other conservative place. And you probably wonāt believe me or care about the difference but if you spend time at the other places, weāre actually pretty damn tame in comparison.
ok. Thing is though, I donāt really care. In fact, besides testing the waters here, my main goal with the s/n was to create something that the most disagreeable, sjw/activist cunts would probably block on sight so that I wouldnāt need to bother with them.
I might decide to change it later if thatās still allowed. Might not. Now that Iāve been here a little while, I think they are pretty chill about s/nās and I donāt think we have much of the folks I was worried about here. If we did, I can only think that every defed reduces that number significantly.
They can dress it up with pretty words. But if you paint a turd gold, itās still a turd and you have nothing to show for it but shit on your hands.
Wasnāt a stab at them liking weird stuff. They can like whatever the fuck the want as long as it isnāt hurting anyone. The point in bringing it up was that they were posting off-topic shit repeatedly and frequently and whenever people would speak up about it, bc it just happened to be an agenda speaking point for the left, all rational discussion about alternatives was immediately shut down and any making the suggestions either accused of bigotry etc or banned.
If furries or trannyfags want to create a sister sub or limit themselves to a weekly thread or something then whatever. But posting it repeatedly, then having the mods sit back and not only take their side but outright silence the opposition, is subversive in the extreme.
Funny, bc all the stuff I was talking about was from BEFORE I decided to adopt that little moniker. And in a very real way, you could say that I wouldnāt have bothered with it but for past grievances.
To you maybe. I do hate the politics behind it. I think of eunuchs and feel not a shred of anger, hatred, or malicious intentions. I might think much of the idea, and I may think even less of tacking on a bonus hole.
I get that you probably would love it if you could somehow get me to see that Iām a bigot and change my ways. And Iāll give you props for at least being much more civil and pleasant to talk to than many of your comradesā¦ but I wouldnāt hold my breath if I were you.
Thatās fine. Like I said, it was a very calculated and intentional move to throw off the rabid
dogstrans ārightsā warriors and any trans that could be called goons (troons). Was never about me bashing individuals. If it eases your conscience to chalk me up as a trans hater, go right ahead. I really donāt care even a little bit.But the fact remains that leftists drove me to it and that I donāt intend on changing.
Ah yes of course, another thing to blame the left forā¦
I think the reason why you get banned on the big platforms is because you are bad for business and because you turn every community into a call of duty lobby where a bunch of (either emotional or physical) 14 year olds scream slurs at eachotherā¦ Thatās not a place where businesses want to advertise, woke advertising and pretending to care about social issues is the latest fad and you donāt fit into that, so you get the bootā¦
Also, you are free to have your community hereā¦ Nobody can censor youā¦ Of course people and other services can block/defederate you, but you could still have a conservative utopia here where you have discussions. Instead, all you do is complain about āthe leftā, as you always doā¦ What happened to personal responsibility?
I know Iām repeating myself, but you canāt call yourself āIhatetroonsā, simultaniously cry about how the left unfairly accuses you of āhating troonsā and expect anyone to take anything you say seriouslyā¦
Yeah no shitā¦ But there are 2 subs on this server which have any content, and both of them are meme subsā¦ Is the left stopping you from participating in non-meme subs on your own server?
So the left is also responsible for how you design your spaces?
Are there? The closest to being an actual community is ask-exploding heads, and there are like 5 posts with comments in itā¦ I mean I get it, the defederation trend doesnāt help this community grow, but if your whole position is an uncompromising and provoking attitude, I am asking myself once more what else you would expect the big instances to do.
Even from a pragmatic point of view, what admin would voluntarily say āoh yes, I would love to have more controversial memes on my server, thatās always fun.ā. In reality, all this gets you is more people complaining about stuff on your server and/or a bigger moderation effort. You have to be pretty passionate about anti-trans memes in order to federate with a server like yours, or be a small enough server that not enough people care.
We are talking about āfree-speechā in the context of an international online forum, not in the context of US law, so I do think itās a bit interesting to think about how your āfree speechā forum has a very one-sided narrative.
No, to be honest, I didnāt. But it still is interesting to actually see that even if you have full control over your server, even if you get to make the rules, you are still doing the same thing as always: Blame āthe leftā for everything all day long without suggesting any viable solutions.
Yeah, but again, I canāt really believes youā¦ To me, you obviously seem to go out of your way to be percieved as a transphobic biggot.
Itās like the 16 year old punk kid with a huge pink mohawk who will insist that āI donāt give a fuck what people think about my looksā, yet he will spend 2 hours a day to get his look just rightā¦
So I donāt know exactly what it is, maybe you crave attention, maybe itās a sex thing, idk, but I think you definitely care, whether you realize it or notā¦
If what you are saying is actually serious, your logic would be deeply flawed. If I was annoyed by star wars fans on the internet, the last thing I would want to do is call myself āstar_wars_sucksā because obviously, all that would do is provoke star wars fans into attacking meā¦ And I also canāt really figure out how posting āstar wars sucksā memes would help in any way.
The best way to not get bothered by people is by not mentioning the topic that annoys you at all and maybe block people who bring it up, but if I was posting memes online about how āstar wars sucksā, I would definitely expect to be bothered by star wars fans.
Damn, you really think of yourself as an edgy badass, donāt you? DMT is another right wing meme sub imo, nothing special.
The point is that you seem to believe that people can just go to a hospital and get surgery instead of going to a therapist. Thats not how it works, you go to a therapist first.
Which is annoying, but the solution to that is moderation, right? Back in the forum days, you had admins who would remove your post instantly if you dared to post the wrong topic to the wrong place. But at one point, the idea that doing that would be āagainst free speechā became popular.
What else do you think would solve this issue?
Even if we forget the username, you make it a point that you are āextremely frustrated withā the trans community, you call them ātrannyfagsā, talk about them āmutilating their bodiesā, even admit that you donāt like them. Did you also only start doing things like that when you adapted the name?
I mean we are talking about the internet here, people misunderstand eachother constantly and chronically irregardless of the topic. You can recieve death threats for saying something like āVideogame x was pretty good, but y was betterāā¦ How can you act in any way suprised or offended at people on the internet calling you a biggot for anything? Didnāt you just mention āthick skinā and the importance of āfree speechā and āposting offensive contentā? Now you want to tell me that you were so offended at somebody calling you a biggot that essentially you became a biggot, at least as far as your online appearance goes?
Iām not quite sure what you mean with āthe politics behind itā, but isnāt everyone sick of the culture war politics stuff?
I know you will probably disagree, but from āthe leftāsā perspective, it isnāt the left thatās pushing the trans stuff. The left just wants what it always wanted, essentially the same thing you also claim to believe in: To let everyone live their lives how they want as long as they donāt restrict someone elsesā liberty. Itās right wing politicians who scapegoat social minorities in order to divide people.
I mean your views are your views, if you genuinly donāt want to hurt anyone and donāt want to restrict anyoneās freedom, I donāt care too much what you believe in.
If Iām being honest, the thing that annoys me about right wingers the most isnāt their view, itās how many present their views. And itās not even you choosing the āwrong languageā or whatever, itās you seemingly going out of your way to provoke and be offensive, at the same time acting all offended when people inevitably get offended by your provocations and donāt want anything to do with you, and at the same time you then complain about the left getting offendedā¦ Itās so frustratingly confusing and makes most dialoge impossibleā¦
And donāt get me wrong, I see similar behavior on the left as well, you have left leaning city people who unironically believe that all rural people are backwater hillbilly incest racist biggots. But that just makes it more frustrating as both sides just focus on complaining about the āidiotsā on the other side and nothing ever gets doneā¦
And while I will not be able to stop myself from voicing my opinions as you can see, I donāt have any expectations of you changing your views. This is mostly about my interest in the views of people who think radically different than me or perhaps about if we have any possibility of getting along or at least share our views despite having radically different views.
Damn, the left really does control everything, doesnāt it, even your own actions are actually the actions of the left at the end of the dayā¦
Yeah again, this does make me think that it is indeed a sex thing. You get hard by people calling you a disgusting transphobic biggot, donāt you, you naughty naughty boyā¦
Jokes aside, you have been a good sport, so thanks for suprising me and actually giving me somewhat of a ācivil conversationā.