• carbonprop@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      What’s happening in the US isn’s even considered conservatism anymore. It’s the MAGA cult. I am definitely left, but conservatives don’t always need to be bad. It just so happens that the Republican Party has filled itself with people serving themselves and not the people who voted for them. Fingers crossed things go well this November.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah I know what you mean. I want to have debates over subjects that are actually debatable. Big government vs. small government kind of discussions.

        Instead I feel like we’re just struggling to constantly explain why burning down the Capitol and declaring Trump to be God Emperor is a bad idea.

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        10 months ago

        When was the last time there was a conservative president in the US who didn’t cause tremendous lasting damage to the country?

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          10 months ago

          Eisenhower(?) at the very least id say any damage he may have done was at least somewhat offset by good done. But he was still very much part of the new deal era so he is moreso the exception, besides him im pulling blanks both before and after.

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          10 months ago

          Depends on your definitions. You could even say Lincoln (conservative or not) caused lasting damage through failing to prevent a civil war and then getting assassinated before finishing the affairs

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        10 months ago

        I agree. They were always the worse option in my lifetime when looking in the generic but individually some were and option and was a good hedge against radical left things to help keep things centered. Again that being said the us has always been to right to me.

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        10 months ago

        Conservatives are always bad.

        The past was not great for many peoples, today is still not great for many peoples, there is nothing to be gained from going back or staying still.

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          10 months ago

          We’re having the same issue in Canada. Conservatives are wanting to go back and not look forward. It wasn’t always that way.

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        10 months ago

        We also have Michelle Obama, who also does not want to get into politics.