• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Maybe times have changed (except for a few like Greece - Cyprus). I feel the public votes are more diverse and true than the jury.

    That aside, it is no surprise that culturally, neighboring countries are indeed closer music wise that distant countries. They have different music hits in Portugal than they have in Finland

    • EnderMB@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      10 months ago

      Possibly, but there is undoubtedly a political element to it. The UK was practically dead last for over a decade, thanks to Brexit and the Iraq war, and only really clawed favour back from helping Ukraine. Frankly, the UK regularly sends shite over and uses it as a comedy show/excuse to drink, so they don’t particularly deserve anything better, but it’s hard to deny political ties when it comes to votes.

    • cleanandsunny@literature.cafe
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      They have actually changed the rules! Audiences choose who moves on to the final now - there are no jury votes in semis anymore. Only for the final.

      • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Yep. That’s only half a step though. I’ll be back when they remove the jury from all votes.

        • ebikefolder@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          No, back to the roots, please! Only in the native language of the countries, all singers accompanied by the same orchestra, and only jury votes. It used to be a very unique competition, but now it’s just meh. Boring. Thanks, but no thanks.

          • lud@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            Hell, no. That gives a huge advantage to Ireland and the UK for being understandable, and even more advantages for the European languages that are often considered “beautiful” like the Latin derivatives.

            • ebikefolder@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              The competition was meant for composers and authors, not for musicians. Composition and lyrics only. Not performance, not voices or “beauty” of languages.

              That’s why I oppose public voting, because the audience tends to be very superficial. Have a jury of experts in composition and poetry. No music business, but pure art. In the beginning, the jurors voted primarily on the sheet music, without having even seen the performance.

              • lud@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                9 months ago

                The competition was meant for composers and authors, not for musicians. Composition and lyrics only. Not performance, not voices or “beauty” of languages.

                Well that’s not true anymore and I suspect most think that is a good thing.

                • ebikefolder@feddit.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  I know it’s not like that anymore. That’s why I haven’t watched it for at least 30 years. Boring commercial mainstream garbage.

                  • lud@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    9 months ago

                    Well it’s never going back since the majority prefers the newer formats.

                    A music competition that’s not about music makes no sense.

                    It sounds like you want a competition in books.