Weighted to reflect the population, 62% chose to rejoin, 35% to stay out while 3% were unsure or offering no opinion.

In the original 2016 referendum, the UK-wide result narrowly passed Brexit by 51.89%. At the time in north, 56% of voters had chosen to remain with 44% choosing to leave.

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    Maybe lets use the opportunity to flip the script. Reunite Ireland and offer Scotland to join, creating the United Republic of Ireland and Scotland.

    Then demand the UK to change it’s name to Kingdom of England and Wales as a prerequisite to any negotiations with the EU

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      Wales isn’t a kingdom. It’s a principality of England.

      Without Scotland it isn’t a unity of kingdoms at all.

      Edward I took over Wales while divided and it’s been a principality of the English crown since.

      If Scotland becomes independent it’s logically back to “England” officially.

      If England still has sovereignty over Wales and Northern Ireland one is a principality, the other a territory. Neither is a kingdom capable of forming a union of kingdoms.

      Another name might be chosen but “United Kingdom” wouldn’t be accurate anymore. If it stayed the same it would be an anachronism.

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        Forgive if I’m wrong (not a native speaker), but why does United Kingdom implies several kingdoms to be united. Couldn’t it be a kingdom which united several previously independent territories?

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          This issue with that is Wales and Northern Ireland haven’t been independent territories either.

          England conquered them. They haven’t voluntarily joined a union, they have been conquered.

          Northern Ireland with “power sharing” meaning they cannot elect a democratic parliament is essentially is run as a colony. The only caveat being they do have seats in the UK parliament.

          Wales is a semi-autonomous part of England with a local government having some say but no ultimate control should the national government decide against something. Again they have seats in the national parliament so they aren’t a colony.

          Essentially in any other place Wales would be just part of England, not a separate country. Not a separate territory as there’s no significance to the border except a historical one.

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        Wales hasn’t been a principality of England for quite a while…

        Wales is a separate constituent country just like England or Scotland.

        It’s NI that’s… complicated.

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          Wales being a separate country is debatable.

          They went from being a principality with some sovereignty to having none.

          Currently they have devolved powered but the UK parliament has full sovereignty and can veto anything the Senedd decides.

          They have no currency or mint. No separate legal system. No separate military.

          Essentially they are were a part of England on joining the UK and their sovereignty comes from the UK parliament.

          If Scotland left and the Union was broken they’d be a part of England again.

          Northern Ireland is complicated.

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            It’s not really debatable, that’s what they are. A constituent country like Scotland or England.

            They went from being a principality with some sovereignty to having none.

            No. They have some level of sovereignty now. But they are part of the UK and thus can’t ignore UK-level decisions.

            Currently they have devolved powered but the UK parliament has full sovereignty and can veto anything the Senedd decides.

            The same is true for Scotland. England doesn’t even have any power in this sense, they don’t have any devolved parliament. How does this mean Wales isn’t a constituent country of the UK?

            They have no currency or mint. No separate legal system. No separate military.

            So? You’re clearly not understanding what constituent country of the UK means. Yeah, they’re in the UK and use UK currency and military. Legal system is a bit complicated in that they’re joined but Wales can still set their own laws. How is that relevant?

            If Scotland left and the Union was broken they’d be a part of England again.

            No they wouldn’t. This is based on literally nothing other than your own assertion.

            Also, you keep flipping between Wales is part of England and Wales isn’t part of England.

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      NI has a very clear-cut legal option to leave UK and reunite with Ireland but Scotland’s situation is a lot more complicated.