• OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
            15·
            8 months ago

            Probably it refers to the keystrokes that stretch out across eternity, like control escape alt mother’s maiden birth certificate, etc.

            As opposed to memorizing long strings of completely fictional and irrelevant keystrokes in vim, like :IDDQD!?IDKFA.

            It all just boils down to preference. Btw these two sentences are the only ones in this message that are accurate.:-P

            • 257m@sh.itjust.works
              3·
              8 months ago

              vim has sane keybinds. I am not doing fucking C-x M-c M-butterfly just to change some goddamn text. Modal editors are inherently superior. :)

              • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
                2·
                8 months ago

                One thing I like about vim - which I use literally daily - is that if you time-traveled like 30 years into the past, it would still have the same bindings.

                That is actually relevant today b/c when you ssh into a cluster computing / linux farm environment, there is no “mouse”, no “clicking”, no “selecting”, etc., there is only what you can accomplish with your keyboard. Nano, pico etc. do exist - except of WHEN THEY DO NOT!!:-P - but vim is just EVERYWHERE. Regardless of how often I actually make use of that fact, I enjoy the confidence that it gives me that it is there for me when I need it:-).

                Similarly for Unix shell scripting, and perl, vs. a language like Python where you never quite know what you are going to get irt to different versions on some other machine that you do not control. I mean, it’s great when it actually works but…

                Then again, to each their own, and I begrudge nobody their preferences, especially if it suits what they are doing in the moment:-).

    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee
      2·
      8 months ago

      Is debian a good choice for new users? I know it’s used as a base for a lot of distros. But I’ve never used it. I assumed it was more technical and less user friendly.

      • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        8 months ago

        Unless you have the latest, newest hardware, most things should work out of the box

        Worst case scenario you may have to edit one file in /etc/apt/sources.list to enable some drivers and firmware

        Dont let the internet scare you with stories about how only L337 hax0rs can use debian. Its really easy

    • Fal@yiffit.netEnglish
      16·
      8 months ago

      Using a distro that isn’t a rolling release for a desktop is absolutely stupid

  • creation7758@lemmy.ml
    191·
    8 months ago

    It’s a great time get into Linux for those who want to try it. This year is actually the Year of the Linux desktop

  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    181·
    8 months ago

    As an avid user who has primarily used Windows and Linux only for recovery purposes when Windows goes tits up , I’ve been playing with Nobara and Linux mint on a small 180gb SSD and I’m intimidated by the terminal knowledge that is needed when things don’t go right .

    I also have a steam deck so technically I’ve been playing with arch btw

    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
      271·
      8 months ago

      I’m intimidated by the terminal knowledge that is needed when things don’t go right .

      As opposed to the trial and error required when things don’t go right on Windows? :)

      Let’s be honest to ourselves - for more complex problems, we’d be pretty much dead in the water without an internet search engine on either system. However, on Linux, at least you can do failure tree isolation relatively systematic: narrow the issue down, and eventually fix it (or find out it’s not fixable, e.g. certain driver compatibility for specific hardware). For windows, it’s mostly trial and error until you find “the right solution”. Rarely is there any good resource for narrowing your problem down, mostly because of the absence of good advice for terminal commands, or because each windows version shuffles settings around to a new place / config file and holds duplicates and triplicates of settings god-knows-where.

      • lad@programming.dev
        6·
        8 months ago

        I remember back in the 2000s when I tried to isolate a problem this never worked out. Too vague, too little understanding of what’s what. If it wasn’t for the help of one more experienced user in our campus, I would’ve given up pretty soon.

        I hope things are better now, as I haven’t been using Linux for quite some time and consider going back but this time there will be no one to ask

        • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
          81·
          8 months ago

          Things are MUCH better. You will still need the occasional help / web research, but at least you get a working system out of the box, with graphical desktop environment and - typically - network (even wifi) and 3d acceleration working right away. Disclaimer: Your best bet for a distribution to get started is one that includes non-GPL compatible firmware (Linux Mint I believe is best, ubuntu may also work). Also, not all graphics chipsets work quite as well out of the box. I believe right now AMD is best, however, nvidia provides drivers for linux (that “taint” the kernel), if you need that for gaming.

          Steam works fine and gaming is only limited by the titles that don’t run even on the proton (windows compatibility) tool. A respectable amount of titles are even released natively for Linux / SteamOS.

          • lad@programming.dev
            31·
            8 months ago

            The internet was already present then. The Arch wiki though…

            Well, I’ll just hope things are better now and give it a go

            • huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works
              5·
              8 months ago

              I don’t feel like the Linux communities were really a friendly space in the early 2000s. And the Ubuntu forums felt like they became powerful in 2010. I played around with Linux briefly in 2005 and felt like there wasn’t much support for solving certain issues.

              And when in doubt, ask chatgpt. It may give you a wrong answer but it can point you in the right direction.

            • huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              8 months ago

              And you can always send me a question if you run up against something. I’m not an expert by any means but I’ve made it my daily driver for a couple years now.

      • oo1@lemmings.worldEnglish
        6·
        8 months ago

        What ever do you mean, isn’t it obvious to just navigate here : “/HKEY/current_user/sytem/reg/software/currrent_version/microsoft/explorer/advanced/pleasedontfkmymom” and set that to 1?!? as well as the 3-4 other very similar looking places.

      • Freeman@lemmings.world
        35·
        8 months ago

        An now on a toilet break after trying to fix a permission problem with a local network NAS. I am so fed up with all the (u)mounting, users/groups, chmod/chown and so on, as I am now 3 hours in to it.

        Yes, on windows its a trial and error with two ir three checkboxes, done in a few minutes or half an hour. The terminal-knowledge mentionned is definitely a big thing, even with modern distros like Linux Mint I am using right now

        • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          8 months ago

          Yes, on windows its a trial and error with two ir three checkboxes, done in a few minutes or half an hour.

          My experience was that I was done in a free minutes or half an hour, but, crucially, the problem wasn’t fixed. I had very meager options, and I’d exhausted all of them. In a Linux system, it might take longer, but at least I have the confidence that it can be fixed.

        • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          8 months ago

          Local Network NAS is not something that the typical user that just scrolls memes on a browser and occasionally edits a document has to face. Setting that up on a Windows machine is just as convoluted on the permission side, but instead of writing neat commands, you have to hunt for buttons on nested upon nested settings dialogs that make no sense and don’t follow any logical structure anymore.

          • Freeman@lemmings.world
            11·
            8 months ago

            Maybe, havent had the same project on windows. What I had was the need to connect a second monitor/projector, which I can say from experience, was NOT easily done on Linux (I had to mess with stretched monitor, the duplicating didnt work and so on)

    • Damdy@lemmy.world
      6·
      8 months ago

      I’m pretty computer stupid. Been using Linux for 4 years now. Used the terminal to some extent, but I’ve only needed it for specific things and my day to day doesn’t need it at all. Just dive in.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    13·
    8 months ago

    Most of my computer time is spent in a Linux VM using 2 screens, with windows/O365 sitting idle on a 3rd screen.

    It’s because work-issued device of course. But it has decent specs so no complaints about performance.

    • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      1·
      8 months ago

      Do you work from home and are forbidden from using Linux and don’t have even a laptop or pc where you can install Linux outside a vm? do you perhaps even have a work issued fairphone?

  • psivchaz@reddthat.com
    121·
    8 months ago

    I just switched my gaming PC to Linux yesterday. Well, switch is strong, I still have Windows in case I need to go back.

    It’s come a long way, though. I started using Linux desktop around 2000, and it was not a fun experience. I tried again in 2019 with a System76 laptop, and it’s been just fine. My home theater/gaming PC was the last holdout.

    So far, it works great. Steam Link works, my games all seem to work, RetroArch is going strong. The only downside is Oculus support doesn’t seem to exist at all, so I might need to keep my Windows drive a bit longer just for VR.