Plenty of these kids are already getting several servings of abuse at home. That’s why they show up with weapons. Kids just want to be noticed and acknowledged.
Give them a safe space to grow and they’ll learn, punish and repress them and they’ll lash out.
Actually when they’ve interveiwed school shooters and such they have found the opposite to be true, these kids come from very permissive homes where the parents never raised a hand to them no matter what they did wrong. Like Ethan Crumbley’s parents who let him get away with anything and always looked the other way no matter how many animals he “experimented” on.
Kids need discipline and sometimes physical punishment is the only sure way to get their attention and make them see that their actions do have terrible consequences.
I agree and disagree at same time, some will learn that way, others only know harsher methods imo. In reality some people really just fuckin suck & can’t be helped
Those people suck because their parents suck. Violence begets violence. That includes psychological violence. If you are raised right, violence is off the table.
There are people that will default to violence, but beating them won’t change it. Mental illness won’t go away because your parents loved you. But if they care, they’ll realize you need help and organize that.
Mental Health issues are not what are discussed here. For twenty years now I work with people who have severe mental health issues and with children to the age of 5. With almost every client and every child I can trace back where their issues stem from. If you deal violence, you experienced violence. Nobody defaults to violence from nothing.
Their parents suck because they DON’T do enough to punish and reign in their kids. They are so afraid to raise a hand to their kids, and the kids know they can get away with murder. Raising kids right includes physical punishment when they threaten others or misbehave deliberately. Take it from a boomer who saw that benefits of such punishment, versus how the lack of them these days has turned the world into a cesspool full of self-important miscreants carrying weapons around because they are weaklings.
I don’t think a kid needs to have constant physical beating, but if he or she does act up and do anything threatening to others, it can make them think twice about doing such things. Yes it can make them less likely to bring a weapon or even think about doing something that might well end with their bottom getting smacked to oblivion.
The problem is if you don’t punish kids in a way that hurts, they end up escalating their violent horrible behaviors because they start to believe nothing bad will happen to them no matter what they do.
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I totally agree. It was never fun to get slapped or spanked as a kid, but in the 50s and 60s, if we did something wrong - SMACK. There was no holding back the corporal punishment and it did force us to learn to take responsibility and learn how to behave.
Spare the rod, you always spoil the child (as in turn them into a rotting runt of a weakling).
We never should’ve stopped beating children in the west as a form of punishment
Plenty of these kids are already getting several servings of abuse at home. That’s why they show up with weapons. Kids just want to be noticed and acknowledged.
Give them a safe space to grow and they’ll learn, punish and repress them and they’ll lash out.
Actually when they’ve interveiwed school shooters and such they have found the opposite to be true, these kids come from very permissive homes where the parents never raised a hand to them no matter what they did wrong. Like Ethan Crumbley’s parents who let him get away with anything and always looked the other way no matter how many animals he “experimented” on.
Kids need discipline and sometimes physical punishment is the only sure way to get their attention and make them see that their actions do have terrible consequences.
I agree and disagree at same time, some will learn that way, others only know harsher methods imo. In reality some people really just fuckin suck & can’t be helped
Those people suck because their parents suck. Violence begets violence. That includes psychological violence. If you are raised right, violence is off the table.
There are people that will default to violence, but beating them won’t change it. Mental illness won’t go away because your parents loved you. But if they care, they’ll realize you need help and organize that.
Mental Health issues are not what are discussed here. For twenty years now I work with people who have severe mental health issues and with children to the age of 5. With almost every client and every child I can trace back where their issues stem from. If you deal violence, you experienced violence. Nobody defaults to violence from nothing.
I really doubt experiencing violence is the only path to becoming violent, but to be honest I don’t care enough to read into it.
Their parents suck because they DON’T do enough to punish and reign in their kids. They are so afraid to raise a hand to their kids, and the kids know they can get away with murder. Raising kids right includes physical punishment when they threaten others or misbehave deliberately. Take it from a boomer who saw that benefits of such punishment, versus how the lack of them these days has turned the world into a cesspool full of self-important miscreants carrying weapons around because they are weaklings.
You think physically beating them will make them less likely to bring in a weapon?
I don’t think a kid needs to have constant physical beating, but if he or she does act up and do anything threatening to others, it can make them think twice about doing such things. Yes it can make them less likely to bring a weapon or even think about doing something that might well end with their bottom getting smacked to oblivion.
The problem is if you don’t punish kids in a way that hurts, they end up escalating their violent horrible behaviors because they start to believe nothing bad will happen to them no matter what they do.
Kids who bring weapons to school are not deterred by a “bottom smack” lol
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If that’s not what you were suggesting, then perhaps don’t say that in the first place.
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Don’t give a shit what you do.
You sound exactly like the reason why kids bring weapons to school. And frankly I wouldn’t bother stopping them if you were their teacher lol
Frankly you ARE a total scumbag and so I don’t give a fuck what you think, but your words will come back to bite you. That much I will guarantee.
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What you’re saying is you removed my comment because it was truthful and therefore unacceptable to your community.
Check the modlog, I don’t moderate people opinions if they can communicate it in a civil manner without ad hominem attacks.
I don’t give a flying fuck WHAT your self-important reasons are for doing anything. STOP posting to me about it, I dont’ give a flying crap!!!
Just remember that kids are now more immune to bullshit, so if you beat them, expect some messed up revenge afterwards ;)
I totally agree. It was never fun to get slapped or spanked as a kid, but in the 50s and 60s, if we did something wrong - SMACK. There was no holding back the corporal punishment and it did force us to learn to take responsibility and learn how to behave.
Spare the rod, you always spoil the child (as in turn them into a rotting runt of a weakling).