A VEGAN influencer is feared to have died of starvation after attempting to live on a fruit only diet. Zhanna Samsonova, 39, previously told how she spent four years eating and drinking just fruitsā¦
You missed an important part of the headline āis feared to haveā¦ā
It says she caught a ācholera likeā infection
Yeah. Itās The Sun and they put ādies of starvationā in quotes. They are presenting rumors as facts (again).
Ah, thank you. Was very confused and I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve. Although honestly, in this damn timeline, i would just shrug at this point
I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve.
Except it does when you eat nothing but carbs and fiber with little to no fat and protein. You can be vegan all you want, but ignoring basic nutrition will always result in disaster.
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You canāt get all the nutrients needed from just fruit. This is fact. Just because some fruits may have some fats and proteins doesnāt mean they have enough to meet nutritional needs.
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A major part of their ānutrientsā point is fats and proteins, read the last reply again.
Just because some fruits may have some fats and proteins doesnāt mean they have enough to meet nutritional needs.
In the article it says she eats sunflower seed sprouts. A cursory google search says these are a complete protein containing all the essential amino acids.
It might be possible to live off fruit, but in the end, āfood restriction resulting in significantly low body weightā is the definition of anorexia.
I donāt claim to know if she put her health in a compromised state or not, but look at recent pictures.
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Zhannaās official cause of death has not been released yet, however.
Additionally she does look anorexic on some pictures, both things have nothing to do with being vegan, people are just pushing their hate by usings someone misfortune.
That could be deliberate to push a narrative against vegans.
Yeah, 100%. Look at the other replies to my comment and you can see people getting sucked into that narrativeā¦
Ackshullyā¦ vegans donāt get all the essential nutrients to survive š¤”
If any of those boneheads actually read the article, it says she was eating sunflower seed sprouts which are a complete protein.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with veganism.
Correct. This is just clickbait. Veganism is a healthy diet choice. This person suffered from anorexia, but people love to dogpile on vegans.
Care to elaborate?
Itās someone not eating properly. The fact that they didnāt eat animal products is irrelevant. People get Ill and die while eating a shit non vegan diet too.
How much fruit do you have to eat to get a proper amount of proteins per day?
Vegans just need to eat a shit load of beans and peas
Can we ban The Sun, please?
I knew someone who became a fruitatarian. He moved to the Phillipines and only ate Durian (look it up). He was my first glimpse at the āspiritualā > alt light pipeline.
Only durian? What a fucking monster.
Legit everyday posting videos of him slopping up a whole fruit. It was disgusting.
A VEGAN influencer. Thanks for making that really clear.
this has nothing to do with being vegan. please stop.
If she starved or died due to complications from her diet, if she wasnāt able to stave off an infection for example or recover properly from an illness that would not affect an otherwise healthy individual - I would say her diet or nutrition lifestyle is germane to the situation.
I believe that being vegan is a perfectly valid lifestyle and dietary choice but also people should be aware of some of the pitfalls.
Can you please elaborate why you feel that being vegan has nothing to do with it?
Hey, vegan here. Itās okay if you want to hate veganism and/or vegans themselves. Quite frankly, I donāt care, but please refrain from omitting important details in the article to make plant-based diets as a whole look bad. It makes you look like a close-minded moron who will grasp at any straws to justify your position.
Any diet handled poorly will be nutritionally detrimental, no shit, and she just happened to handle her plant-based diet by consuming essentially nothing but raw fruit. For you to fail to acknowledge this actually makes me think youāre just, in bad faith, looking for any leverage you can get to shit on veganism when you donāt have to. I can assure you that, as a vegan, I find her dietary choices insane.
Let me leave you with this: think for a moment. Be a little more critical about how you approach a matter like this. Iām not saying this for my sake; Iām saying it for yours, so you donāt embarrass yourself online by coming off as a dense motherfucker with a straightforward, black-and-white, narrow , linear thought process.
Thanks.
Wow. Are you going to be ok? Iām not sure if youāre reading into my comment with some baggage.
Youāre absolutely right about fruit based - I casually wrapped vegan and fruit based together without realizing that she was practicing an extreme diet and it wasnāt indicative of a vegan diet.
I suppose Iām not aware of how much grief you get from society or people to defend your choices.
Iāll try not to comment on vegan topics anymore and Iām not sure what I said specifically to deserve such venom but Iāll do my best to not come across as a moron I guess.
I didnāt obfuscate facts from the article. I wasnāt attempting to summarize the article. I was asking how her diet doesnāt account for issues stemming from her diet. But I see now what you mean that her being vegan and eating only fruit are two different things. I guess reading it casually I wasnāt sensitive to what must be your plight.
Hope you feel better.
Iām going to be just fine. Dude, Iām just interpreting this very face value. The article outright references eating āan all fruit dietā. The fact that you went out of your way to seemingly make this about veganism being the inherent concern just reeked of bad faith. CTFO.
Yes. I need to chill. Me. How much more face value can you get from the lede in the article? Maybe the title of the article I suppose. However as addressed by other comments the article in whole was probably in bad faith.
You donāt need to defend your life. I hope you donāt approach every exchange as an opportunity to fight. There must be a better way to communicate without being combative with each other. Surely not every interaction needs to be conflict? I wasnāt attacking you or veganism. I donāt know you and please donāt think you know me. I didnāt think my comment was antagonizing. If I was thatās entirely on me.
My wife and I were considering how to alter our diet. Our friend is a vegan and we were talking about it with him. Iāll stick to that. Iāll try to not be a dense mother fucker and I hope you are open to people surprising you with happiness and joy. Or not. Doesnāt matter to me.
Yes. I need to chill. Me. How much more face value can you get from the lede in the article? Maybe the title of the article I suppose. However as addressed by other comments the article in whole was probably in bad faith.
You donāt need to defend your life. I hope you donāt approach every exchange as an opportunity to fight. There must be a better way to communicate without being combative with each other. Surely not every interaction needs to be conflict? I wasnāt attacking you or veganism. I donāt know you and please donāt think you know me. I didnāt think my comment was antagonizing. If I was thatās entirely on me.
My wife and I were considering how to alter our diet. Our friend is a vegan and we were talking about it with him. Iāll stick to that. Iāll try to not be a dense mother fucker and I hope you are open to people surprising you with happiness and joy. Or not. Doesnāt matter to me.
Itās not that deep.
Because the overwhelming majority of vegans arenāt eating nothing but fruit? Come on dude you canāt actually be this dense.
Look Iām sorry. I thought I had phrased my comment in a nonthreatening and inclusive way. But I guess you are right and Iām a complete useless human moron.
Iāll not comment anymore then.
Please see also my response to the other non toxic vegan person for clarification.
It just occurred to me that this Vegan influencer was promoting a lifestyle that may be dangerous and we should discuss it but Iām a moron so Iāll go away.
This is a case like not all gun owners suck only some gun owners suck.
The article was unfair. Thatās a good discussion topic. Vegans arenāt all fruit people. Thatās also valid. The importance of diet and the impact on our earth - also valid and crucial. How I should behave as to not come across as a dense moron - Iām not sure interesting to anyone else but Iām willing to have a go if you both are.
She was a vegan promoting vegan diet online. How does thay have ntohing to do with being a vegan? what?!
Her mother Vera Samsonova said she had caught a ācholera-like infectionā just hours before she was due to fly home.
Zhannaās official cause of death has not been released yet, however.
The SUN: āSHE DIED OF VEGANISM!ā
Lemming: āHow does this story have nothing to do with her being vegan?!?!āI see weāre already at Reddit type levels of idiocy.
Letās be honest, tho: you donāt know either as her cause of death has not been released. I agree, the other user jumped to conclusions, but you canāt say anything definitive as of now either.
I never claimed to know her cause of death. But between ācholeraā and āveganismā Iād rather bet on the former.
So the story has nothing to do with veganism, is that the point your trying to make? Really unclear
Because not all vegans eat the same restricted diet she was on. And not all vegans are anotexic, vegans do eat enough.
But I guess this vegan did starve herself. I donāt even think the sun suggested all vegans diets are deadly.
If they put it like that in the title, I see it like they are strongly implying it. Of course, I might be misreading it.
Also calling someone who eats only five different plants vegan does not sound really truthful to me either.
Any vegan with half a brain knows that you need more than just fruit to be healthy. Assuming her death by infection is a result of her diet (which is possible, but we donāt know that), she died of being an idiot, not a vegan.
Itās the Sun, what do people expect other than incendiary content thatās usually wrong? We should all take a leaf out of Liverpoolās book and have nothing to do with it.
For people who arenāt from the UK weāre kind of the other way around to America, our TV and radio news is generally pretty well-adjusted on the whole but our tabloid press is straight up infotainment and this has carried over into the internet era.
The next Steve Jobs, everyone
Anyone who dies of starvation was vegan at the end.
This is literal fake news.
Well itās the SUN!
