• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    As bad as Biden was, CNN were worse. Fuck that shitty network for allowing Trump to lie pretty much nonstop for 90 minutes unchallenged.

    • Match!!@pawb.social
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      5 months ago

      they gave both people plenty of time, biden is supposed to be capable of challenging on his own

      • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        I disagree. Trump indulged in a gish gallop of lies and bullshit. Biden spent too much time trying to refute some of it and in doing so wasted time which he could’ve used to make his own points.

        There should’ve been moderation in place to stop this, there was none.

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          5 months ago

          which he could’ve used to make his own points.

          Well I mean he did let everyone know we finally beat Medicare.

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        5 months ago

        Certainly the “moderator” isn’t expected to moderate the thing! /s

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          5 months ago

          It wouldn’t do Biden any favors to be the third most charismatic person on the debate stage.

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        5 months ago

        It takes longer to debunk a lie than to say one. It’s easy to spout out a hundred lies in two minutes, but it takes longer than that to debunk them without just saying “No, that’s a lie” to every one, which also sounds dumb if Trump is saying that, too.

          • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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            5 months ago

            Not necessarily.

            Perhaps 20 years ago Biden WorldCom acquitted himself better.

            That said Trumps performance is a well established debate strategy called a gish gallop - just say dozens of lies and your opponent won’t be able to rebut them all. If they try, they won’t have time for their own points.

            • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              5 months ago

              Hey if you’re trying to tell me Biden is a shit candidate you’ll get no argument from me. I remain furious at anyone who voted for him in the 2020 primaries.

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            5 months ago

            This post truth thing is a real problem because the average person does not bother checking facts. What they notice is some division, controversy etc. not that one person is lying. Also any moron can see that Biden is old.

            Someone with simple answers wins these debates. Notice how Biden says the right things all the time but he won’t reach people like this.

            • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
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              Notice how Biden says the right things all the time

              Are you talking about during the debate? “We finally beat Medicare!” ain’t that.

              And if you think Biden said the right things about the rail strike or protests around the weapon shipments to Israel you’re living in some kind of grand delusion that excludes millions of people you’re depending on to get Biden re-elected.