• Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Given her opponent will absolutely speed up that genocide, anyone worried about it should shut the fuck up until after Harris is actually president.

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      its a dance between the electorate and the elected. nobody should be shutting up about anything - even the insane trumpets. sanity has no special disposition on this planet and, if you want your particular flavor of reality implemented, scream about it and then make it happen.

      we are exactly in this position because not enough people were involved in the process to begin with. please don’t hate-shame people out of it again.

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      And then… Israel gets to genocide Gaza for four more years? People need to realize that if US policy on Gaza doesn’t change soon, a significant fraction of the Gazan population (more than the already significant 1 out of 10-20 anyway) will die. There is currently a full blown famine in Gaza and it can’t wait for the next election.

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        And then Palestine will actually have a lot more political opportunities once the GoP is searching for a Trump replacement.

        Break the far right by stopping Trump and Putin’s influence on the western world, and things like war crimes and genocide actually have meaning again.

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          And then Palestine will actually have a lot more political opportunities

          How so? Harris and “Israel should expand more” Waltz? The Democrat establishment has given no indication that they have any issue with what Israel is doing.

          once the GoP is searching for a Trump replacement.

          I mean they might find one or might not, but either way they’re not going away anytime soon. Project 2025 will just become project 2029, and then the 2028 election will be another “fight for democracy”. Voters are tired of being told to vote blue no matter who while the party shifts further and further to the right.

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      After she’s elected when the voters have the least amount of leverage? Before an election is the best time to be loud about things. Actually before a primary is probably the best time, but you get the drift.

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      Her opponent will do the exact same amount of Genocide. Harris is warmongering to attack Iran just like Trump.

      The only thing Holocaust Harris will do it is word her war crimes a little nicer.

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        This is totally unfounded speculation which betrays a frankly embarrassing political ignorance.

        Congress controls what we send to Israel. Biden tried to stop arms shipments in May, Congress overturned it. That is a fact. Everyone crying “genocide Joe” either doesn’t understand the division of powers in our government, or is deliberately lying to help the far right.

        Harris’ opponent won’t flight Congress on aid to Israel, and will flight them on aid to Ukraine, and is already suggesting nuking Iran. Claiming they are exactly the same is either stupidity or subterfuge.

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          Please learn how politics works before pretending to have knowledge. Biden is full controll to stop arms shipments it’s called Leahy Law and Biden is violating it. The entire Biden administration are Genocidal Nazis who need to be put in jail for life.

          US uses loophole to keep 100 arms sales to Israel under the radar amid Gaza war

          Biden administration not required to disclose sales below set dollar amount, in addition to public shipments worth over $573m

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            Please learn how politics works before pretending to have knowledge.

            Please learn what irony is before making such ridiculous statements. I don’t tolerate bad faith nonsense from fascists or their useful idiots.

            Congress is in control here, we do not actually have a unitary executive, despite the best efforts of the fascist party you insist on helping daily.

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    It shouldn’t even be close now. Explain that, and then point to the ‘working class’ politics they’re losing to.