Lots of subreddits are being forced / threatened to open back up so that Spez can fix his IPO valuation and stop these mean mean moderators from hurting his feelings
Some subreddits are opening up and changing their rules so that only specific exact content is being allowed. For example the r/steam subreddit for the steam gaming platform is now discussing literal steam, the idea being that the subreddit is open but it’s either a joke or crap content
It’s a good enough solution, opening these things in name only and forcefully moderating thing to ensure the conversation and engagement is boring, there’s not much else mods can do when admins are being a bunch of dicks.
The protest was less about them wanting to charge a price, it’s that in a time frame of 6 months reportedly went from “the API won’t have changes anytime soon” to “we’re going to pivot to a paid API soon” to “we’re charging you advertiser rates per x million API requests, starting in a month, and you cannot supplement with your own ads”.
There was no time for these apps to adjust their pricing models. Most were on yearly subscription models or ad-driven. Having that large a pivot in the rules with no time to adapt the business model is just shitty partnership on Reddit’s part.
Also the fact that they were involving the third party app maintainers at all. There’s no technical reason that REDDIT couldn’t put the payment mechanisms in place to block USERS from making API calls through Oauth Apps. If you pay whatever subscription fee your account can make calls through whatever third party app you like.
But instead they decided that they were going to charge the APPS for some inane reason, and put figuring out a user-facing payment mechanism on those maintainers.
The point is that the sub will be dead in a few weeks, unless the admins double down again, wipe the whole mod team, and seize control to run it themselves or by admin-approved-mods or something. Which frankly as a billion-dollar company they probably should have done years ago in a more graceful manner for their dozen main subs like r/pics, but it yanks the veil off and makes the corporate power-grab super visible.
Lots of subreddits are being forced / threatened to open back up so that Spez can fix his IPO valuation and stop these mean mean moderators from hurting his feelings
Some subreddits are opening up and changing their rules so that only specific exact content is being allowed. For example the r/steam subreddit for the steam gaming platform is now discussing literal steam, the idea being that the subreddit is open but it’s either a joke or crap content
It’s a good enough solution, opening these things in name only and forcefully moderating thing to ensure the conversation and engagement is boring, there’s not much else mods can do when admins are being a bunch of dicks.
Ehh, if Reddit is getting traffic from people going to see the trolling, then Reddit is still making money.
Not if I view them using those third party apps they apparently need to charge an arm and a leg for.
OK, true, but that’s why they want to charge 3rd party apps.
And I’m fine with them wanting to do that.
The protest was less about them wanting to charge a price, it’s that in a time frame of 6 months reportedly went from “the API won’t have changes anytime soon” to “we’re going to pivot to a paid API soon” to “we’re charging you advertiser rates per x million API requests, starting in a month, and you cannot supplement with your own ads”.
There was no time for these apps to adjust their pricing models. Most were on yearly subscription models or ad-driven. Having that large a pivot in the rules with no time to adapt the business model is just shitty partnership on Reddit’s part.
Also the fact that they were involving the third party app maintainers at all. There’s no technical reason that REDDIT couldn’t put the payment mechanisms in place to block USERS from making API calls through Oauth Apps. If you pay whatever subscription fee your account can make calls through whatever third party app you like.
But instead they decided that they were going to charge the APPS for some inane reason, and put figuring out a user-facing payment mechanism on those maintainers.
The point is that the sub will be dead in a few weeks, unless the admins double down again, wipe the whole mod team, and seize control to run it themselves or by admin-approved-mods or something. Which frankly as a billion-dollar company they probably should have done years ago in a more graceful manner for their dozen main subs like r/pics, but it yanks the veil off and makes the corporate power-grab super visible.
This is exactly what I’m thinking. I just stopped cold turkey.